Im tide between these two exhaust systems. Ptunning sback and the ark n2 catback , help guys whats your best pic also has anyone heard them in person.
Ptuning


Ark N2


[table:e7141339c0]Perfered exhaust on a N/A scion tc[/table:e7141339c0]

 

ur goin turbo w/ that ptuning correct?

 

I plan to but not for a while , does it effect the sound if i dont have a turbo ?

 

they both sound great...it all depends on what look you're going for...if you like the "drift spec" look, then go with the ARK N2, if you like a little closer to the OEM look...go Ptuning. I love my N2...never regretted anything about it and anyone that has seen my car has liked it alot. I also have heard great things about the Ptuning exhaust also. And as an added note...the only difference once you're turbo'd will be that the exhaust note will be slightly quieter than before you were turbo'd

 

hey buddhastc does the ark n2 give any rasp or is it just deep tone , also if i get the ptuning exhaust will my car loose power due to not enough back pressure in the system??

 

the ark has no rasp...very deep...it has an 18" resonator attached to the mid pipe...and with the ptuning...i believe the piping is the same as the ark...2 1/2"

 

with the ptuning will i loose power instead of gain power, keep in mind im stock i plan on going turbo in about a year

 

the ptuning will be useless without having a turbo, 3" na can actually cause damage to your engine... on top of that, it will sound like the poopy.

 

^anyone has a answer

 

now im confused so i cant get the ptuning exhaust because it will cause damage to my engine because im N/A. also it would sound like crap ? can anyone confirm this statment

 

damage to the engine? not so much
will it benefit you? not so much

theres no damage that will be done to the car with a 3 inch exhaust, but there's no benefit either.

(assuming you are not turbo)

 

i just wanted to get that clarified because im about to order the exhaust. no matter what exhaust you get you wont really feel a difference in power, also i just love the look of the putuning "clean", im guessing the only think you can feel would be better throttle response correct ?

 

We have a few customers that were in the same predicament--they wanted to go turbo in the near future, but they did not want to buy an NA exhaust now and then buy our 3" exhaust later when they run a turbo. Although we did not design our 3" exhaust system for an NA setup, it can be used on an NA car as long as you keep the factory header and factory s-pipe. The restriction created by the factory header and primary cat along with the restrictive s-pipe helps create the necessary back pressure to allow the use of our 3" s-back exhaust without affecting performance.

Another suggestion, you might want to post in this forum and the forced induction forum to see if anyone on the board is running our 3" s-back exhaust system on an NA car and get their feedback first hand.

MrC

 

If you know your goal is to be turbo'd, then who cars about whatever hp loss you may get right now from a 3" setup. You're not racing on the streets (hope not) and how often are you going to the track?

I would just get the PTuning exhaust now (since you seem to really like it and can afford it) and be happy that you won't have to modify it when you go turbo.

The only other option is to stick to stock and wait until you're turbo'd.

 

where is the factory s-pipe located , ok so when i install this exhaust connectes directly to the factory s-pipe ?

 

The ptuning s-back is a full 3" exhaust with a short adaptor that connects the 3" exhaust to the 2.25"/2.5" factory s-pipe. Down the road, you can remove the short s-pipe adaptor and connect it directly to our 3" s-pipe. It's modular setup.

MrC

 

Just to clarify i have to remove the s pipe on the ptuning exhaust and use the factory s pipe corret ?

 

If you buy the Ptuning 3" S-back exhaust system, it does not come with a 3" s-pipe, but instead an adaptor to connec the exhaust system to your factory s-pipe.

Only buy the Ptuning 3" Turbo-back exhaust system if you already have a turbo on the car (ie. Greddy, Turbonetics, etc).

Basically the Ptuning 3" S-back exhaust system comes with everything you need to connnect to your factory s-pipe and replace your entire factory exhaust, after the s-pipe.

MrC

 

no if thats the case ptuning all the way man

 

oh wow thanks, love the support guys thanks alot , last question i promise lol , so the s-back comes with axel back -> midpipe-> adapter(to connect to the factory s-pipe) correct ? also my main concern is i dont want the exhaust to sound raspy i have a stock tc and a zpi lightweight pully