Hello SL,
I don't mean to beat a dead horse here. I am not gonna just ask: "yo whatz betr 4 me, teh nos or turboz for 500 horsies!!" I want to know which will be more reliable. I don't want to have to deal with problems with my car obviously. I want it to be street drive-able. I know that therefore I wouldn't be running an insane amount of boost or a ridiculous shot, I have the common sense to know that.
My question is basically which will give me power but also with a bullet-proof set up. I know with both tuning is required; I'm fine with that. I am more inclined to Nitrous just because of the $/hp but I am very open to hearing why I should spend more money on a turbo.
Thanks!

 

Im a noob on this stuff but to me turbo/nos are far away apart. i think it would be hard to compare reliability since at the end it depends on your set up. But a conservative turbo set up, would beat a nos set up...but again im just a noob hehehehe

 

I know they're completely opposite. My set-up is an '07 manual with an Injen CAI so far. But yes I know their very different, but I am looking for a way to get more hp. I do not have the time/knowledge of someone like tcpete to N/A my car and get the power output he got.

 

Generally speaking... If you were to take both setups on a conservative tune, and a given fact that this would be a reliable DD, with just small amounts of beating on your car, I would say Nitrous, pruely on the fact that nitrous is setup to a full throttle postion, so the motor only get's abused(can take a good amount) when you go full throttle, as to a turbo, you can ease into boost while regular driving. Personally I would go with a turbo, Run a very safe tune around 6 pounds, and you will seriously never have to worry about any engine failures with a good tune. Plus you will get great gas milage because 6 pounds doesn't require big injectors.

But its up to you.

 

Would 6 psi even be worth a couple grand?

 

nitrous would be fun and yes the $/hp thing seems nice but filling up that bottle just seems like a PITA.

boost can also be a PITA especialy when your charge pipe blows off and your in the middle of no where at 2 am .

as for small amounts of boost im in the 6psi range with my zpi kit and i will say it was very worth it, i get enough hp to have some fun. it just really depends what you do more. i do some autox so the 16g works perfect

 

Yeah I may get into going to the strip or autox at one point... But at the same time I want my tc to last.

 

Neither, even when tuned will be reliable to the point where you'll never worry. With nitrous, all it takes is a solenoid going back and you can kiss your intake manifold goodbye, if you're luck, or worst case you'll have detonation within the motor itself.

Turbo setups have their share of reliability problems too.

If you want to be on the safe side, don't go forced induction. When added power, you'll have added risk and added problems.

 

I do understand that the added power will cause added stress. I'm sorry for being **** about all this. It just seems to me that, especially with nitrous, if you understand what you're doing and aren't stupid, you can get power plus longevity out of the car. I love my car and like any 18 year old boy have the desire to get power out of it. (Albeit I am smart enough to not do this stupidly, thats why I ask about reliability.) The more I research the more I find going the N/A route is going to give me minimal gains vs. forced induction of some sort.

 

Would this be a decent start (I.E. getting me experience etc) or am I being a complete dumbass about this?

http://www.atlanticspeed.com/product...&idcategory=98

 

If your only gonna autocross, or time attack, go turbo... Nitrous seems to be good for drag racing for numerous reasons, i just dont see how nitrous would be beneficial on a long road track.

 

All I'll say is don't boost on a budget, you'll need money for at least motor removal and teardown if something goes wrong. You'll also need a new clutch and stiffer motor mounts.

Going NA won't net you the gains of F/I and even though you're trying to do research that doesn't cover the "when ish happens" factor.

You're adding power to a car that wasn't meant to boost. Dezod had a thread about this topic and how the motor was not designed to handle appreciable amounts of boost. I've been there and done that, I had nitrous spraying a 75 wet shot with a Ny-trex Triple Threat kit with Dynotune 2-step RPM window switch and 1st gear lockout, I then bumped up to a turbo system running 10psi on a T3/T4 50 trim. I then removed it all for longevity.

Reliability doesn't come cheap when you add performance where it was not engineered to go.

I got off lucky, no damage to my motor before I decided to un-boost. Others aren't as luck. Some guys, even tuned, didn't get 500 miles out their turbo system before the motor blew. A buddy of mine had his nitrous kit installed and just got the bottle filled, before he used it at all his intake manifold blew up thanks to a faulty solenoid which cost him the front bumper, main engine harness and intake manifold.

No amount of preparation can prepare for in inevitable. The only way to be safe is to not boost it especially if its your only car and you rely on it.

The reason I ultimately decided to un-boost was so if anything went wrong I could use my warranty and not have it voided due to modifications. That peace of mind was good enough for me and when I looked for my new car, I looked for one that is fast without the need to throw aftermarket parts at it.

 

I agree, thats why I learn towards nitrous. I just dont think I can afford to boost.

What do you mean by this?

 

See edited post above.

 

are you on a tight budget and have little money then dont waste your time =] if you want to build your car up booost it plenty of guys have ran 300whp for years never had a problem just run 6psi safe tune and have money put away for building motor for more powa!!

 

Yeah upon more research into nitrous I saw you used nitrous, and from what I saw went the best route and put quality parts into your car. I will not boost, I just do not foresee my fiance letting me that kind of money into our car when we're married.

I am leaning towards nitrous, but I guess something I never specified is that it would be on the car for just a while, not the rest of its driving life. So I believe in 6 months this will be the route I take. It will only be for a time and I know I have a plethora of more research to do before I get close to deciding.

 

Nitrous can be fun, it gives that extra jolt when you want it. No turbo spool FTW lol. $40+ for a 10lb bottle adds up fast though. Just take precaution when installing it, and test it out in small intervals first like starting out with a 30 shot and increasing ever so slightly. My woman would not let me throw more money into the tC with projects so instead I just got a faster car and called it a day lol.

 

Yeah she hasn't said anything yet, but I'm guessing she will. Although, she understands the need for power, she says her Cooper S is too slow lol...

Anyways! What kit would you recommend? not Zex I'm guessing.

(Ha changed sig FTW)

 

Like someone else said you are talking about two completely different things. Turbo all the way! When you do it, make sure to do it right though.

 

Why is this still open.
Each one, turbo and nitrous has been covered like 734668642346780086421 times.


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