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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 06:17 PM
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I was thinking of getting the Megan mid-pipe and s-pipe, but was wondering if that would delete a cat. Anyone know?

Also, would there be a point in switching out the stock s-pipe with the megan? (ie - is the stock s-pipe mismatched with the stock exhaust?


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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 06:39 PM
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yes it gets rid of the cat.
i reccomend switching the spipe because its not all 1 size on the oem
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by krazyscion
any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
incorrect. and SPIPE BACK system deletes the cat. a CATBACK system leaves the oem cat. the only exhaust like this is magnaflow
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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thx for correction mang
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by krazyscion
any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
incorrect. and SPIPE BACK system deletes the cat. a CATBACK system leaves the oem cat. the only exhaust like this is magnaflow
Wrong.

A "cat-back" system on our car deletes the 2nd cat but retains the first (primary - most important) cat. This primary cat is deleted with the install of a header.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by krazyscion
any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
incorrect. and SPIPE BACK system deletes the cat. a CATBACK system leaves the oem cat. the only exhaust like this is magnaflow
Wrong.

A "cat-back" system on our car deletes the 2nd cat but retains the first (primary - most important) cat. This primary cat is deleted with the install of a header.
Wrong.

I'm using the proper termanology. Almost ALL exhausts for the tC are Spipe back. meaning it gets rid of the secondary cat. If you get something like the magnaflow CATBACK, you must cut off the oem exhaust PAST the oem cat and V BAND it to the oem.
Old Oct 29, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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i would reccomend just getting the cat-back, the s-pipe is not neccesary and is sort of a waste of money unless you plan on getting a header. i wouldnt even reccomend getting a header though because it will make the exhaust sound like crap and really doesnt not really free up that much noticible hp!
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Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by krazyscion
any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
incorrect. and SPIPE BACK system deletes the cat. a CATBACK system leaves the oem cat. the only exhaust like this is magnaflow
Wrong.

A "cat-back" system on our car deletes the 2nd cat but retains the first (primary - most important) cat. This primary cat is deleted with the install of a header.
Wrong.

I'm using the proper termanology. Almost ALL exhausts for the tC are Spipe back. meaning it gets rid of the secondary cat. If you get something like the magnaflow CATBACK, you must cut off the oem exhaust PAST the oem cat and V BAND it to the oem.
Go to any online shop and look for a "cat-back" exhaust for a TC. It deletes the 2nd cat.. and it's called a "cat-back".

Here I'll do it for you:

http://www.dezod.com/pd_megan_racing_drift.cfm

Read the first paragraph... wait i'll do it for you:

One of Megan Racing s strongest products, the Cat-Back System is made by SUS 304 Stainless Steel with fully polished surface, CNC machined flanges and are mandrel bent. Its aggressive styling, and deep, strong tone are just part of the MR Cat-Back. It is also able to improve horse power and performance with its straight-through design. We have 2.5 piping and 3 piping for certain models, a tip that is specially designed to reach the maximum performance, and have a perfect match on body styling. As a direct bolt on, each Cat-Back comes with 12 months warranty.
Another:

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Des...l&ModelDesc=tC

And it reads:

ARK Exhaust System Features:

# 100% T-304 stainless muffler Full cat-back system.
# CNC-machined flanges.
# CNC mandrel bends with micro TIG welded fittings deliver perfect fit.
# Straight-through muffler cores maximize power and deliver a deep throaty exhaust note.
# Includes comprehensive instructions and all necessary hardware.
# Included high end style silencer (selected models only).
# All bolt-on system. No cutting or welding.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by youngflyer
i would reccomend just getting the cat-back, the s-pipe is not neccesary and is sort of a waste of money unless you plan on getting a header. i wouldnt even reccomend getting a header though because it will make the exhaust sound like crap and really doesnt not really free up that much noticible hp!
A header is gonna make more power than any exhaust mods will. But yea unless your getting a header, a S-pipe is really not necessary.
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:36 PM
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ARK N-II, DT-S exhaust system uses both original CAT, It is fully catback system.

www.arkspeedracing.com
www.arkperformanceusa.com/photo/
Old Oct 30, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
Originally Posted by krazyscion
any catback exhaust system deletes cat(s)
incorrect. and SPIPE BACK system deletes the cat. a CATBACK system leaves the oem cat. the only exhaust like this is magnaflow
Wrong.

A "cat-back" system on our car deletes the 2nd cat but retains the first (primary - most important) cat. This primary cat is deleted with the install of a header.
Wrong.

I'm using the proper termanology. Almost ALL exhausts for the tC are Spipe back. meaning it gets rid of the secondary cat. If you get something like the magnaflow CATBACK, you must cut off the oem exhaust PAST the oem cat and V BAND it to the oem.
Go to any online shop and look for a "cat-back" exhaust for a TC. It deletes the 2nd cat.. and it's called a "cat-back".

Here I'll do it for you:

http://www.dezod.com/pd_megan_racing_drift.cfm

Read the first paragraph... wait i'll do it for you:

One of Megan Racing s strongest products, the Cat-Back System is made by SUS 304 Stainless Steel with fully polished surface, CNC machined flanges and are mandrel bent. Its aggressive styling, and deep, strong tone are just part of the MR Cat-Back. It is also able to improve horse power and performance with its straight-through design. We have 2.5 piping and 3 piping for certain models, a tip that is specially designed to reach the maximum performance, and have a perfect match on body styling. As a direct bolt on, each Cat-Back comes with 12 months warranty.
Another:

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Des...l&ModelDesc=tC

And it reads:

ARK Exhaust System Features:

# 100% T-304 stainless muffler Full cat-back system.
# CNC-machined flanges.
# CNC mandrel bends with micro TIG welded fittings deliver perfect fit.
# Straight-through muffler cores maximize power and deliver a deep throaty exhaust note.
# Includes comprehensive instructions and all necessary hardware.
# Included high end style silencer (selected models only).
# All bolt-on system. No cutting or welding.
What I'm saying is that they use the WRONG terminology. The PROPER term should be Spipe back, which connects to the spipe. a TRUE CATBACK cuts off the oem midpipe and clamps to it. the ARK and MAGNAFLOW exhausts are the only ones that follow its proper name.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by youngflyer
i would reccomend just getting the cat-back, the s-pipe is not neccesary and is sort of a waste of money unless you plan on getting a header. i wouldnt even reccomend getting a header though because it will make the exhaust sound like crap and really doesnt not really free up that much noticible hp!

are you kidding me? The S-Pipe is one of the most restrictive parts in the exhaust system... In an N/A car you wont see the effects as much as you would turbo'd, but it makes a HELL of a difference.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 12:48 AM
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you are right my friend, it is the most restrictive parts but i feel that the gains achieved by buying an s-pipe, make it not worth it.

to the response about the header, again your right, you will see the most gains by adding a header however again are the gains really worth the ____ty rasp, and the time/money of having to buy a resonator? to me it was not worth it! i could barely feel the gains, and it made it useless to me other than under the hood "blind". To me a simple megan mid and a axelback were perfect! Now if i went turbo, i would swap my whole exhaust!
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tCtCtC
What I'm saying is that they use the WRONG terminology. The PROPER term should be Spipe back, which connects to the spipe. a TRUE CATBACK cuts off the oem midpipe and clamps to it. the ARK and MAGNAFLOW exhausts are the only ones that follow its proper name.
Wrong again. "S-pipe" is a term we use in the Scion community.

Go to any shop, and they'll call that pipe a "downpipe".

S-pipe is not a common generally accepted term.
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by tCtCtC
What I'm saying is that they use the WRONG terminology. The PROPER term should be Spipe back, which connects to the spipe. a TRUE CATBACK cuts off the oem midpipe and clamps to it. the ARK and MAGNAFLOW exhausts are the only ones that follow its proper name.
Wrong again. "S-pipe" is a term we use in the Scion community.

Go to any shop, and they'll call that pipe a "downpipe".

S-pipe is not a common generally accepted term.
Downpipe, S-pipe whatever. The term for a "CATBACK" and a "S-PIPE" or "DOWNPIPE" back are completely different. I find it completely necessary to have this discussion cause I was a person who was about to buy a ARK system and didn't know it was a true "CATBACK"
Old Oct 31, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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I was a person who was quoted a "cat-back" from a muffler shop and I was unpleasantly surprised when they said they needed to charge me for the "S-pipe" or as they called it, a "downpipe".

You're just used to our term of S-pipe - no one else in the auto industry knows what that is unless they know you're talking about this car and happen to know the lingo.
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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why dont we just call catback and s pipe back the same thing? casue they are!! it starts after the s pipe and goes back, cat back is an axle back with a mid pipe that deletes the secondary cat. the only way to remove and important cat that needs more work is to get a header

what a dumb thread lol. when did s pipe back even come into play?

axle back -> cat back -> from header back -> full exhaust
Old Nov 4, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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F it i give up. id LOVE to see the next thread on someone buying a ARK or MagnaFlow exhaust and having problems because they didnt know they had to modify the oem midpipe.

but whatever, everyone is just to hard headed
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