andrewbmx

Whats the difference horsepower wise and function wise?

XIEmperorIX

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Nothing..shortram I believe is louder but just has hella heatsoak compared to a CAI..quite frankly neither of them really do much of anything other than look pretty under the hood and sound cool ;p

Thorium06

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throttle response i believe to be better with the short ram, i have tried both

andrewbmx

whats heatsoak??

WeakC

yeah whats heatsoak?

XIEmperorIX

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It takes in hotter air rather than cold air and the heat can't dissipate like it's supposed to..so it can't cool down enough therefore taking in mostly (if not all) hot air..I could be wrong but that's my understanding.

And considering where a short ram sits in the engine bay it's not surprising it takes it virtually no cold air at all.

DynoEnvy

IMO....short ram is for looks and sound only. Cold Air Intake can give you some performance benefit, but with computer controlled air/fuel mixture the performance advantage of either is debatable.

ack154

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Ya, theoretically the Cold Air version would be better performance wise. But it is unlikely that you'd notice a difference.

Heatsoak is when the heat of the engine bay "soaks" into the intake piping (or filter of a short ram) and increases intake air temperature - which decreases power. Can happen with any type of intake really since it can soak into the piping as well as the filter.

B-Man92

short ram intakes are shorter in length hinting "short", located in a different position than the CAI not sure so im not even goin to guess. the short ram intake creates more power in lower rpms and like XIEmperorIX said creates more heatsoak(if you didn't know, thats bad). the CAI filter is located right behind the fender, its invented to be in a cool spot. and also the CAI creates more power in higher rpms, and as everyone knows thats where more aggressive driving takes place.
so my recommendation is to get a cold air intake.

cliff notes: short ram = warm air intake; less power

cold air = more power

gp1817

sR is a little louder........but lots of heatsoak which will affect the performace..CAI more power and better....

scuds03

You got it backwards..Throttle response is actually better with a cold air because of the longer tubing. When you open up the throttle plate to let air in the engine, there is a larger volume of air already past the filter element in the pipe than a short ram. Short rams are more peaky then longer tubes (at least when we messed with them on a built Honda on the dyno). But on TC's neither make much drifference from one another.

gp1817

there was a dyno done for the injen cai and SRI for the tc .....the SRI did good up until 5500k rpm when the heat soak was noticed and affected the response....on the other hand the CAI did much better activated about 3500 rpm a few HP more then the SRI but not much

captainlaziness

QFT.

rangerryda

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whatever is cheaper imo. dont buy name brands. get an HPS. great quality ebay brand. nice couplers and band clamps. filters was nice too. very cheap price. if you want power, go S/C, turbo, or nitrous. for throttle response and sound, get a CAI.

Jtc

Powerwise nothing. The SRI will give you better response. I've used both on my car and I can tell you for sure the response was better on my manual with the SRI but still not much more than the CAI. The CAI has a sweet sound from 3k-4k whereas the SRI sounds pretty good throughout the revs but not at impressive at that point.

Anyways, just get a CAI that can convert into a SRI and try both out to see what you like. Problem solved.

scuds03

True that. they have cheap ___ CAI's on ebay that can work as either. They are knockoffs of the name brands but perform just the same...remember they just take the same size pipe and bend it the same way haha can't really F that up.

gp1817

actually SRI wont give you a better response....it may sound louder....but in our heads that what we think......but in overall real life..the CAI will be better as far as response and speed..if your driving for like 20 min all that heats under the hood...and you nned to pass someone that heat will affect the response of the throttle...some may disagree with me but it was proven the Cai (injen) was the best one for the tc little bit better in all areas then the SRI..


ive had both...i first did the SRI...felt a difference in the beging then as the engine warmed up the throttle kinda gotta weak...a few days later put in the CAI felt a tiny bit better ..the more cold air the better the engine can breather even us we will suffcate under high heat condition samthing with a car unless you have some kind of heat shield around the SRI filter

rangerryda

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HPS CAI can convert to both and its about 120 shipped. Great product.

andrewbmx

Thats what I ordered I was just curious as how to run it. Cold air it is.

gp1817

cold air is the way to go