STS Turbo Systems
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When I was getting my exhaust system installed, I took a look at this Camero SS. I wanted to see what was done to it, and how the piping underneath looked, because I was getting piping done at the very same place. So, I got down and discovered this. This is the shop owner's car.
http://media.putfile.com/STS-Turbo
http://media.putfile.com/STS-Turbo
These STS systems have been around for a while now. There has been quite a bit of contraversy about them as well. I looked into them for a while when I was entertaining the idea of boosting my Camaro. They are actually engineered quite well. The trick is matching the correct size turbo, especially the exhaust housing, to the engine in the car. Mounting the turbo in the back of the car gets rid of all the extra heat under the hood. The sleeper thing kinda goes out the window because they have quite a bit of turbine noise. There is very little room for a real exhaust system.
Matching the turbo to the car is key here. When done correctly, you can achieve a decent HP increase and lag is not really an issue. Using a smaller exhaust housing, can re-create velocity that is lost with the substantially cooler exhaust temps. Plus, without the intercooler, pressure drop is non-exhistant. The ambiant air rushing under the car cools the pipes and causes an intercooling effect. Thickness, and make of the pipe have a lot to do with this also. Aluminum dissapeats heat much more rapidly then steel, and ideally would be used on these kits.
I've talked to some people at greddy about the induction of water on the hot turbo creating problems. I thought for sure that water splashing up on the exhaust housing of a hot turbo would cause it to crack. They have informed me that you would have to nearly submerge the entire thing in water to cause it to cool down fast enough to cause any serious issues. I guess its much more likely with the turbo mounted at the back of the car, but still not likely.
I definatly wouldn't recommend one of these kits for a smaller displacement engine, or for someone that wanted to really squeeze every last horsepower possible out of their engine. The front mounted kits are just much more effcient at making power at higher levels. However, they seem ideally priced for someone that wants a reliable kick in the pants or someone that tows a lot.
Charles
Matching the turbo to the car is key here. When done correctly, you can achieve a decent HP increase and lag is not really an issue. Using a smaller exhaust housing, can re-create velocity that is lost with the substantially cooler exhaust temps. Plus, without the intercooler, pressure drop is non-exhistant. The ambiant air rushing under the car cools the pipes and causes an intercooling effect. Thickness, and make of the pipe have a lot to do with this also. Aluminum dissapeats heat much more rapidly then steel, and ideally would be used on these kits.
I've talked to some people at greddy about the induction of water on the hot turbo creating problems. I thought for sure that water splashing up on the exhaust housing of a hot turbo would cause it to crack. They have informed me that you would have to nearly submerge the entire thing in water to cause it to cool down fast enough to cause any serious issues. I guess its much more likely with the turbo mounted at the back of the car, but still not likely.
I definatly wouldn't recommend one of these kits for a smaller displacement engine, or for someone that wanted to really squeeze every last horsepower possible out of their engine. The front mounted kits are just much more effcient at making power at higher levels. However, they seem ideally priced for someone that wants a reliable kick in the pants or someone that tows a lot.
Charles
I actually heard about these turbos awhile back and decide to email them to see if they might ever make a kit for the tC this is what I got in response.
Thank you for your interest in a turbo system from STS. Unfortunately we don't have a bolt-on kit for your vehicle at this time.
We get literally hundreds of requests for new vehicles each week and we will be announcing new kits soon.
I'll put you in our database and we'll contact you when we have a kit for your vehicle.
We do sell a universal turbo system through our authorized dealers that can be modified to fit many vehicles. It will cost more than one of our normal systems due to the custom fabrication and tuning that would need to take place. If you are interested in pursuing this option, please get back to me and I'll set you up with a dealer in your area.
Thanks,
Brady
sidenote I heard they now sell kit s for civics and acuras
Thank you for your interest in a turbo system from STS. Unfortunately we don't have a bolt-on kit for your vehicle at this time.
We get literally hundreds of requests for new vehicles each week and we will be announcing new kits soon.
I'll put you in our database and we'll contact you when we have a kit for your vehicle.
We do sell a universal turbo system through our authorized dealers that can be modified to fit many vehicles. It will cost more than one of our normal systems due to the custom fabrication and tuning that would need to take place. If you are interested in pursuing this option, please get back to me and I'll set you up with a dealer in your area.
Thanks,
Brady
sidenote I heard they now sell kit s for civics and acuras
Do you guys know WHY the turbo is back there? Cause there is no room in the engine bay.. DUH.
My uncle has a Camaro SS. You have to Drop the engine out from underneath the car to remove it. There is no room in the engine bay to mount the turbo, manifold, and piping without some cutting and hood alterations.
My uncle has a Camaro SS. You have to Drop the engine out from underneath the car to remove it. There is no room in the engine bay to mount the turbo, manifold, and piping without some cutting and hood alterations.
Some turbos are "dry" which doesn't require an oil line... only coolant. I would imagine that the STS would use oil tho. and yes... that is a long way back, but if installed properly, i bet there won't be any issues.
Looks like a nice size turbo too! And i love the Tial WG. I'm a tial nut
Looks like a nice size turbo too! And i love the Tial WG. I'm a tial nut
Originally Posted by krazylowgsx
Some turbos are "dry" which doesn't require an oil line... only coolant. I would imagine that the STS would use oil tho. and yes... that is a long way back, but if installed properly, i bet there won't be any issues.
Looks like a nice size turbo too! And i love the Tial WG. I'm a tial nut
Looks like a nice size turbo too! And i love the Tial WG. I'm a tial nut
I think the STS kits use an external push style pump to make sure there's enough "umph" to get all that oil back to the engine. I also believe that the returning oil just dumps back into the valve cover most cases.
In the valve cover? Hmmm. Ever see the oil coming off a turbo? It looks like chocolate mousse. That's why the return lines are so much bigger than the feed lines. That oil pulls a lot of heat out of the unit.
Oh, well, it works, people are running them. It wouldn't make sense for us, we have lots of room in the engine bay for something like a turbo.
Oh, well, it works, people are running them. It wouldn't make sense for us, we have lots of room in the engine bay for something like a turbo.
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