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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:03 AM
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I just want to know what is the rpm of a tC at 60mph in manual transmission before a change my xA for one of those.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:04 AM
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close to 3k
Old Jul 27, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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^3k-3.5k
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mm ok is not big difference between an xA to tC cruising at that speed so i better keep my xA. Thanks!
Old Aug 1, 2009 | 05:06 AM
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my bad dude lol its actually 2,700ish
Old Aug 1, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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yea it's well under 3000 rpm, probably around 67mph would put you right at 3000rpm
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an auto is worse
we only have four gears
Old Aug 1, 2009 | 09:18 AM
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I wouldn't say the auto is worse... Though I have the 5 speed... The auto has a longer 4th gear which is why it's rated for 1mpg higher than the manual. I'd guess the auto is slightly lower in rpms than the manual at 60mph.
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i think 6,000 rpms

lol in 2nd gear
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just curious.
why would that be the deciding factor,
if your were going to trade in the xa for a tc
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 01:40 AM
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auto is way lower than a mt at 60 mph FYI.

i had an auto tc then got a MT tc. i thought something was wrong with the car lol. duhhhh
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 02:05 AM
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in my auto 60 is around 2.5k
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 02:53 AM
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I am at 2.5 in auto at 60
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the rpms in 5th at highway speeds are higher in the 5spd, in my old auto i would be at 3k going close to 70, now going 70 its basically 3.5k, doesnt make any sense at all to me.only 2.5k rpms more to go and we redline our last gear, sweet
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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haha its cause the more gears u have the shorter ratios u get on gears.. datz why on 6speeds u shift a lot lolz..
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 08superwhitetc
haha its cause the more gears u have the shorter ratios u get on gears.. datz why on 6speeds u shift a lot lolz..
You're totally right. You know what I wish auto makers would do with these 6 spd trannies? do what Chevy did back in the 90's....

My brother had a 1990 Corvette that was a 6 speed, but the ratios weren't that short... what would happen when you shifted to 6th at 75 mph was the revs would drop to 1500. Now THAT was sweet. A "true" overdrive gear.

I had a 2000 Audi S4 that was a 6 speed, and i was rowing through gears all the damn time. Really short ratios and little difference from gear to gear. And 6th gear at 75 mph was like 3200 rpm for that V6. I was so disappointed.

Sometimes I wish my Miata and the tC would have a sixth gear, but leave the other 5 gear ratios the same.... the Miata rolls near 4000 rpm in 5th at 75mph and the tC well over 3000. It would be great to have a 6th gear for these cars that would take the revs way down at that speed.
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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IMO, it's the way it is for a reason, and I appreciate Scion for the gearbox on the tC. I used to believe this-and-that should be changed on the tC, but why bother. Pay more for a different car.

It's an economical sports car; neither strictly an economy car, nor a sports car.
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 08superwhitetc
haha its cause the more gears u have the shorter ratios u get on gears.. datz why on 6speeds u shift a lot lolz..

Not all 6-speeds are like this. Ex. a new Corvette or the 04-06 GTO. 1st gear tops out at 60 mph (takes the tc three grears to get to that speed).

Why do people worry about rpm speed at hwy speeds? Your throttle position plays a bigger role in your gas mileage than rpms. My bro's JDM b16 tranny in his Civic revs even higher than the tC. At 70 its at 4.5k rpms and he can still get over 30 mpg.
Old Aug 2, 2009 | 09:35 PM
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yeah a jdm b16 also revs out to 8000+ rpm's. which is halfway up the rpm track for him.

but when teh rpm's are that high going about 75, around 4k, 2k short of the final gear redline, it does affect the mileage. it seems as if that if they just added on a 6th gear to the tranny the way it is now without changing the ratio's it would be sufficient
Old Sep 30, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kphyle22
an auto is worse
we only have four gears
Not really. Since auto have longer gear ratios, at 2500rpm is about 60mph, I think. I'm definitely sure that manuals have a slightly higher rpm.

That's why tC is one of those exceptions where you get more EPA estimated rating MPG in an auto.



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