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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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Default tC stands for Timing Chain.. ... or at least hoping it's a..

Nonseize engine....
Any techies know for sure.....
My hunch is we have the old school timing BELT, and that its like the older 1992 Celica and the engine doesn't explode when the belt snaps.

Thanks in advance

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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The only inexpensive cars I know of that use a chain instead of a belt are Nissans. But this is pure speculation on my part.
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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your right Nissan has been using chains since 1998 or so on all their v6 and 8's.

not too sure about the lowly 4 bangers.

the MAIN thing is if its a full seize engine like Nissans are.

unless it s a non seize design, you can kiss 4 thousand bucks goodbye in repairs the belt OR chain for that matter snaps.

party on
Old Nov 1, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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It's a Chain. I downloaded one of the Service Manual copies that was floating around and thumbed through it.

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My 2000 Celica GTS had a chain as well.

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Sweet!
I'm pretty sure my buddies SER Spec-V has a chain, and it's a 4-banger.
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thats sweet news Epstein,
I cant belive what a bang for the buck this car is.





nice job TOYOTA, errrrr Scion



oh and for 2 points, is it a non seize engine to boot? PLEASE Help me hehe
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2eZee
nonseize engine....
any techies know for sure.....
my hunch is we have the old school timing BELT, and that its like the older 1992 Celica and the engine doesnt explode when the belt snaps.

thanks in advance
Actually they used tC becase xC (to match the xA and xB) was already used for another model of car, I can't find the article again, so I can't remember which car it was.

It does, however have a timing chain. I haven't gotten the shop manual for it as of yet, so I am not sure if it is an interference engine yet . I thought that the Camry engine was not an interference type, but don't quote me on that one. For those not familiar with the term, interference means broken timing chain\belt = bye bye valves and pistons :-)
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 02:58 AM
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All Toyotas use chains except a few of the full-size SUVs from what I remember.

Originally Posted by 2eZee
your right Nissan has been using chains since 1998 or so on all their v6 and 8's.
Anything with the vg33 V6 has a belt. This includes Frontiers and Xterras as well as a lot of Pathfinders and Quests.
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:36 AM
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The tC is timing chain, non-interferance engine (will run if chain breaks) The xC was scratched because volvo already had rights on it.
Old Nov 2, 2004 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by silverstreakersc
The tC is timing chain, non-interferance engine (will run if chain breaks) The xC was scratched because volvo already had rights on it.
No it will not run. It won't bend all the valves, but the car won't move.
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Originally Posted by 2eZee
thats sweet news Epstein,
I cant belive what a bang for the buck this car is.





nice job TOYOTA, errrrr Scion



oh and for 2 points, is it a non seize engine to boot? PLEASE Help me hehe
It doesnt matter if it is a chain or belt to be an "interference engine"
its all about it having the overhead cam, so yes, it will mess the valves up if it snaps/breaks...as far as I know at least...
Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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my 91 nissan nx which had the sr20de in it had a timing chain, most of time you had to replace the motor b4 the chain :D
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:04 AM
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yes, tc's com with a chain, not a belt
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:13 AM
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Yes i sold for nissan. Most of the nissans are now on timing chains. Altima, sentra, maxima, Z, armada, Titan, Pathfinder.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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my 98 Corolla has a chain... or at least that's what I remember
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by simplespirit
Anything with the vg33 V6 has a belt. This includes Frontiers and Xterras as well as a lot of Pathfinders and Quests.
VQ35* ;)
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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the SR20DE has always used a timing chain.

mine's a 93.
Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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There's a little bit of confusion on here.

Yes, the car has a timing chain, just like the Camry.
It is a zero clearance valve system so if the chain breaks the pistons will not smash the heads.

The car will not run, but it won't have any new problems because of the chain snap'age.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by itimebomb
there's a little bit of confusion on here.

yes the car has a timing chain, just like the camry. it is a zero clearance valve system so if the chain breaks the pistons will not smash the heads. the car will not run, but it won't have any new problems because of the chain snap'age.
Thanks for the "clear up".
Yeah, I was always told that, no matter what, if it was an OHC system of any kind, it would bend the valves if you snapped the chain/belt.
But technology is getting better and better...

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