I did a search already but didnt find anything so I thought I would post it. I was reading in one of the tuner magazines today but forgot which one and in it they had a controller that works for both VTEC and VVTI. They tested out the controller on a celica GT-S and it gained from what i remember was about 17 hp and 10 lb tq. The msrp was about 480. Has anybody else seen this yet and do you think it would work with the TC? I wouldnt mind getting it if it did.

 

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how would this controller be beneficial??

would you need alot of mods to feel it??
or
will you feel the difference w/ just the controller?

 

Count with me too, so ... 4 more people needed!!!!!

 

Received the latest issue of Import Tuner today in the mail, there is an article on the Camcon. The test is a 100% bone stock 2001 Celica GTS running 91 octane, on an XS engineering dynojet. The end result with air fuel and cam timing adjustments, 14.1 wHp and 9.1 lb-ft torque.

Stock hp, 143.6 hp to 157.7 hp
Stock torque, 107.2 lb-ft to 116.3 lb-ft

Retail is $419.00, I know there is a buy in going on for around $325.

Mine arrives tomorrow and will be installed on the TC this weekend, we’ll see.

 

i dont think it will help the tC that mych. maybe a few ponies and pounds. gts has lift we dont. but i maybe wrong bout the gains.

 

if you want in on the group buy, you need to post in the other thread!
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With that controller, what will it exactly do? gain more power earlier in the RPM range? And can it damage the engine?

 

this piggyback ECU will control your engine's airflow. it basically "retunes" the engine's computer and basically recontrols the computer.

this should be good because everytime you add an engine part, it works with what you have and becomes better.

basically the more engine parts you have, the more hp you can gain from this

 

because they say vvt-i and vtec, i figure they mean vvtl-i and vtec. vvt-i is nothing like vtec, and so a controller that controls both wouldnt be realistic. the l in vvtl-i indicates valve lift, which is what vtec does, so that controller would be fine. i think that its meant for lift control so it would only work on the vvtl-i engine. sux cuz we have a vvt-i engine, but someone can test it out and see..

(off topic...i'm lookin for non vvt-i cams to install when i go turbo...any ideas on anyone who may be planning on making some?)

 

it controls the timing advance/retard not lift!
it is for vvti and vtec.

it adjusts the fuel/air ratio.

you can tune your set up to gain the most power at 500rpm intervals

 

They mean VVT-i, VVTL-i, VTEC and i-VTEC, it states that on their website. For vtech it can control both the secondary cam profile engagement point as well as the VTC. For the VVT-i and L-i it can control the cam phasing adjustments but I'm not sure about the cross over point for the 2nd cam lobe. The manual is not in English, so, its hard to decipher what it can do for VVTL-i. The other things are listed on their main page though.

Oh, and of course the A/F ratios for all of them, forget to mention that.

 

mMm...

go power enterprise =D

 

Seems like a decent amount of power gains. Does this thing come preprogramed or do you have to program it your self? Usually electronic gadgets like these are not super easy to dial in especially if you don't know what you are doing. If the timing or ignition are off to much BOOM, your going to get detonation. Does this thing automatically retard timing if you start pinging? Seems like a good idea if it works well. Only other thing is you will have to run Premium all the time.

 

Check out the group buy thread for more info. No, they do not have adjustments maps for the 2AZ, yet. But they do have adjustment settings for other engines. Just to make it clear, it does not come pre-programmed with anything, it's sent out as a universal unit. They have adjustments maps (images) that you can get from their website that show what they've found to work well and from that point you'll have to enter the settings in yourself manually. Despite that the instruction manual is currently in Japanese, it still appears that the user interface is easy, and the adjustment maps are simplicity themselves (you can easily see what to do even with the Japanese ones). And yes, if you're not careful you could cause problems. Premium fuel will be a must if you make the fuel and cam timing more aggressive. But, you could just as easily make adjustments that are tuned for fuel economy and or emissions. ^^ This doesn’t have to be just a tool for gaining power if you don’t want it to be.

 

If you still need someone too be part of the group on the controller, i can do it. If not, let me know the results, very curious!!!!!

trd springs
trd exhaust
bazooka sub
shifter
pedals
pedestal tail
trd ground affects
fog lights
billit grills
18' scion wheels
srs side bags
trd steering wheel
tint
FM
now the motor mods begin!!!!!

 

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you wrote vtech, and i dont know, i wanted to point it out, just for kicks and giggles, sorry

 

Heh, 2 out of 3 aint bad.

 

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