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Old May 19, 2007 | 03:56 AM
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If water is in the engine and you dont get it out soon, then your screwed. I am in the middle of replacing my engine after it hydrolocked.

my story: I have a modified injen to fit an aem bypass intake, with a list of other mods. My dad had my car while i was using his truck and he tried to forge a huge flooded road in a bad storm tuesday the 8th (for anyone in oklahoma, it was bad) and was doing well until a semi thew water all over the hood and i assume that flooded the bypass.

We got the car home and found water in the first and second pistons and got it out and decided to let the rest dry out. Not a good idea, we got the engine back together and the water had unknowing dried the crankshaft and on first crank, it snapped.

Insurace is covering a new engine and i was supposed to have my car today, but the toyota tech ____ed the 02 sensor and they didnt have anymore and wont until monday.
Old May 19, 2007 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Phlame217
If water is in the engine and you dont get it out soon, then your screwed. I am in the middle of replacing my engine after it hydrolocked.

my story: I have a modified injen to fit an aem bypass intake, with a list of other mods. My dad had my car while i was using his truck and he tried to forge a huge flooded road in a bad storm tuesday the 8th (for anyone in oklahoma, it was bad) and was doing well until a semi thew water all over the hood and i assume that flooded the bypass.

We got the car home and found water in the first and second pistons and got it out and decided to let the rest dry out. Not a good idea, we got the engine back together and the water had unknowing dried the crankshaft and on first crank, it snapped.

Insurace is covering a new engine and i was supposed to have my car today, but the toyota tech flipped the 02 sensor and they didnt have anymore and wont until monday.
Thats what insurance is for. Glad they covered it.
Old May 19, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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will it warrant when you put back the stock air box and lie? can they tell?
Old May 19, 2007 | 04:44 AM
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No, driving into deep water is still your fault, whether you are stock or not. So even if you are shooting for being a dishonest a hole on this one you are still screwed

One thing to add to what I posted before. I would also dump a little marvel mystery oil into the cylinders before cranking them over. If it cranks a few times, then stop, drain the oil and change it and then go from there.
Old May 19, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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btw before you go freakin out. take the intake apart. clean the sensor and dry it out, the same thing kinda happened to me, i just had a dirty sensor so i cleaned it off, and my car ran perfectly.

btw i had an intake, no fenderwells and it was pouring out, so the tires were just kickin water on the filter, i reved a little to merge with traffic, CEL came on, i shut the car off. let it sit. turned around, went home the car died on me on my street. coasted home, took the itnake apart (in the pouring rain), cleaned it all out with a clean towel, cleaned the sensor with a little bit off rubbing alcohol (a LITTLE), and my car ran perfectly.... since that day i have not used a cai.
Old May 19, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Phlame217
I have a modified injen to fit an aem bypass intake, with a list of other mods. My dad had my car while i was using his truck and he tried to forge a huge flooded road in a bad storm tuesday the 8th (for anyone in oklahoma, it was bad) and was doing well until a semi thew water all over the hood and i assume that flooded the bypass.
Or maybe the water wasn't actually deep enough to reach the filter, the wave from the semi gushed down inside the fender and doused the filter, and the bypass never opened.

I don't know, I think these bypass valves and hydroshields are a gimmick. Bought the bypass with my CAI and put it back in the box after looking at it. I'm not an engineer but it seems like your filter would have to be completely submerged before the spring would even begin to open. (By that time it's too late - read Dr. Isotope's post about it only taking something like 4 teaspoons of water entering the engine to destroy it.) The hydroshield isn't going to help you if the filter gets douched either. If someone has hard data or videos of these devices actually working I'd like to see it, but seems like a waste of money and a false feeling of security.

I just think that once you go filter-on-a-stick, either CAI or SRI, you've realized you're not driving a Jeep - especially if you're lowered as well.
Old May 19, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Your filter has to be pretty much completely submerged before it will pull water all the way up the intake tube as well, which is why it takes that amount of suction to open the valve.

The guy that designed it put out a video of him running his NSX at high rpm with his intake in a bucket of water. So I would say it works
Old May 19, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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^^Thanks. Must have had faith in it to hook up a high-$$ car to a bucket of water!!

But Phlame217's situation proves that CAI + bypass doesn't work for our cars. Whether it's the CAI filter not protected (with Injen, lift the hood look down you see half of it) or the bypass itself.
Old May 20, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Like every one else said

take out your plugs
put a few drops of marvel mystery oil in every cylinder
drain your oil and put new oil in
crank your engine over for a few revolutions
either clean and install old plugs or get new plugs
and clean you maf sensor with some mass air flow sensor cleaner
and try it out and see if it will run and listen for strange noises.
Old May 20, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Like every one else said

take out your plugs
put a few drops of marvel mystery oil in every cylinder
drain your oil and put new oil in
crank your engine over for a few revolutions
either clean and install old plugs or get new plugs
and clean you maf sensor with some mass air flow sensor cleaner
and try it out and see if it will run and listen for strange noises.
^^This will work,I have seen it done first hand with two other vehicals, A Ford Probe and a 80's somthing Toyota P/U!
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