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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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Hi I bought the scion tc intake manifold from weapon r the other day and when I got it I first notice that it wasn't polished very good around the welds. Then when I put in on my engine and hooked up my throttle body I notice my injen cold air intake would not line up with the hole that holds the cold air intake down, it was like 2 inches off. I also couldn't hook up the cold air pipe that runs down in between the fender up. Then when I noticed there wasn't a spot for the vacuum hose that comes off the throttle body. Also you need sorter bolts when you go and bolt it to the head. This part is not a bolt on part.

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did you try to sort out these problems with them first before making this post?

sounds like you're really ____ed, and its undestandable!

but coming on here guns blazing, talking trash seems a bit extreme, i think you should reconsider your method of dealing with you problems

just my .02 cents..........
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Sorry didn't mean to post it that many times, I have had bad experencies with them in the passed and this took the cake.
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have you tried contacting them about the problem at least? or did you come here first?
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i don't think its ridiculous to come on here and post this. Just as long as you try and see if they will do anything. I personally appreciate you relating your experience with them especially with this part. There really isn't too much information out there about this right now. Just keep us posted on what goes down.
Old Feb 22, 2009 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by chicotunner07
did you try to sort out these problems with them first before making this post?

sounds like you're really ____ed, and its undestandable!

but coming on here guns blazing, talking trash seems a bit extreme, i think you should reconsider your method of dealing with you problems

just my .02 cents..........
Wow some people are unbelievable! This is a new product that is supposed to be “bolt on” and it appears that it did not. When you buy a bolt on product it should bolt on you should not have to immediately seek the company for bolt on related issues that is what the R&D is for before the finished product is released. I am not trying to sound like a –ick but if it comes with different hardware and instructions then the installer would be to blame. This would be entirely different if the product did bolt on and he had issues down the road then yes contact the company first but for the simple reason it didn’t doesn’t mean he should contact before posting warning others of product fitment issues. You should give them a call to see how they are going to resolve this issue though if you haven’t already. Just my .04 cents
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i understand what you mean but he should still try to settle it first with weapon-r if for some reason weapon r sent him the wrong one or a faulty unit before saying it is not a bolt on piece at all and requires modification and blah blah blah.

I Just think the OP should try to settle the issue with weapon r before bashing the product in anyway.
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I didn't even know they sold this yet lol I jus gave up after waiting for so long
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I plan on taking care of this monday, but I couldn't get a hold of them because it was sat yesterday. And when you cut and bust your knuckles putting this on for 4 hours and realize it doesn't fit and have to take it off its pretty upsetting, especially for something you pay $600 for. And this isn't the first time I've had trouble with there products, so the (it was a faulty item saying gets old).

I also had to change my user name to Iowa_TC1
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y did u change ur name?
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Originally Posted by chicotunner07
did you try to sort out these problems with them first before making this post?

sounds like you're really ____ed, and its undestandable!

but coming on here guns blazing, talking trash seems a bit extreme, i think you should reconsider your method of dealing with you problems

just my .02 cents..........
Wow some people are unbelievable! This is a new product that is supposed to be “bolt on” and it appears that it did not. When you buy a bolt on product it should bolt on you should not have to immediately seek the company for bolt on related issues that is what the R&D is for before the finished product is released. I am not trying to sound like a –ick but if it comes with different hardware and instructions then the installer would be to blame. This would be entirely different if the product did bolt on and he had issues down the road then yes contact the company first but for the simple reason it didn’t doesn’t mean he should contact before posting warning others of product fitment issues. You should give them a call to see how they are going to resolve this issue though if you haven’t already. Just my .04 cents
you can have your .04 cents back!

did you see the original post? before he edited it? i doubt it.....

he was a lot more agressive and said a lot of worse things, his edit sounded a lot better at his attempt to get some help, which im glad he did.

im not trying to be a d!ck either, but try and get the full story first.

and to the OP, keep us updated on what you did, or decide to do!
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Hi I had to change my user name because I change my email address to my college email address because I was getting to many emails sen to my regular email from scionlife, but I just graduation so the school cancel my email address so when I try to get on it to get the activation email for scion life I couldn't. Therefore I had to change user names. Hope that make more since. Anyway I did edit my OP because I felt I should give weapon r a chane to make this right, but I was ____ed yesterday because that manifold is a pain in the butt to get out and I had to basically switch manifolds out 3 times because the weapon r one didn't work and I have also had trouble with there products in the past.
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I got change back! Sweet! LOL.

I didn't catch that about it being edited. I was just saying something you purchase that has been released on the market should not have fitment issues and if it does it should have the hardware and instructions for perfect fit.
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
I got change back! Sweet! LOL.

I didn't catch that about it being edited. I was just saying something you purchase that has been released on the market should not have fitment issues and if it does it should have the hardware and instructions for perfect fit.

Thanks for understanding were I'm coming from
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Ok this is chris w from Weapon-R. I am here to resolve this little issue.
I recieved the pictures from the dealer that is was purchased from. I will address each issue separately.

# 1 It didn't line up right with the air intake: Weapon-R has stated that the throttle body placement will not be exact. Here is a photo of where it will sit. these are from Iowa_TC1.
We have stated this before!



# 2 it didn't have a vacuum port for the throttle vacuum tube: When we did our dyno we did not have this tube that is being referenced to.

# 3 It was not polished good around the welds: Here is the picture that was given. It is under the throttle body flange and you cant see this at all when installed. White haze is from the welding process and some parts can not be reached with a HIGH speed buffer polisher. Here is the picture.


# 4 you had to get different head bolts: This was the first manifold to leave and the Manifold is suppossed to come with spacer washers to compensate for the length. We will be sending these to Iowa_TC1.

# 5 it had bur marks in when I got it: Didnt have any detail on what customer was saying about this? No pictures or descriptions about this issue. So will wait for more description.

We will be handling these SMALL issues. Also remember I do own a Highly modidfied Scion XB and have been through the same situations before.....Even with A TOYOTA dealer. I understand it did take 4 hours to install, and these issues came up. We will handle this accordingly.

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Hey chris I sent you a email about this and talk to the distributor I bought it off of, so you can email me and we can talk further. But you did not say the throttle body placement would not be exact on the description of it on your website. This is what it reads word for word:
(BOLT ON 50HP! Our Sheet Metal Intake Manifolds are proven to make over 50 hp at the wheels on Mitsubishi applications. Our Street Manifold offers quick Turbo spool and huge top end power increases over the factory intake manifold.We feature CNC velocity stacks, CNC machined flanges, and all of our Intakes manifolds are hand made in-house to ensure top quality. Our Manifolds are made of Billet AL6061 Aluminum and super lightweight. Each manifold is tested for leaks and pinholes for optimum power gains. Comes with ports for all OEM Sensors. Fully Bolt on application. Capable of holding up to 45PSI.)

Notice how you say (fully bolt on application). am I reading this wrong, don't think so!

You never mention that the throttle body placement would be off! And also the throttle body does have a vacuum hose running off it, if you want I can take a picture of that to proff it. Also I had a hard time getting a good picture of the bur marks because of the light shinning off the manifold masked them. And I don't really care if you can't see the white mark on the manifold because it should of been polished period, do it by hand if you had to, thats called making a good quality product. You have been working on this products for at least five months right, so don't start make excuses now, just give me my money back and we can be done with this. I shouldn't have to go through this kind of hassle with a product thats 600 dollars. Make the product right the first time or don't make it. The words and pictures don't lie.
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Iowa_TC1 what year TC do you have?
The hose coming off the throttle body goes to your purge valve. Here is a picture!


If you give me a few minutes i will find the posting that states the throttle body is not exact.
Also with our XB manifold we do state it is not correct OEM placement on the throttle body.

From our dyno session final experience it is 110% fully bolt on. If you like we have plenty of picture of the install of that day. THE MANIFOLD IS BOLT ON!

Like i stated the manifold was supposed to come with spacers for the years with the longer bolts. I apologize about that and will take care of you on that.

I will contact the dealer about the return.
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I have a 08 tc and for the record on a 08 tc there are 4 hoses that come off the throttle body, 2 of them are coolant hose, the next goes up around the MAF, and the other goes back into the intake manifold. I am not making this up, it exist. look on your throttle body if you don't belief me, maybe 05 and 06 didn't have this, but my 08 does. Chris maybe you did say that the throotle body would be off on one of the forum pages, but not everone look at ever single forum page. You should have stated that it was not exact on your website!
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FYI... THE GOLDEN EAGLE AND DECADANT INTAKE MANIFOLD.. Doesnt Allow you to use your INtake at ALL.. You have to modify your intake system completely and have a custom intake made..

We apologize, one of our packing guys forgot the Spacers for the Cylinder Head Flange bolts

Given the Intake manifold Plenum size and Angle of the tube routing from the TB to the PLenum that is the closest we can get, ( being 1/2" off ).. Without hurting Horsepower and or Torque and keeping the Fluid Dynamics of the plenum design..



Golden Eagle & Descadant intake manifold are he Same thing..
TB flange is on the right side END of the plenum.

Will need totally custom intake system and is for TURBO Applications only..
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Originally Posted by toyota_scion_tc
Originally Posted by chicotunner07
did you try to sort out these problems with them first before making this post?

sounds like you're really ____ed, and its undestandable!

but coming on here guns blazing, talking trash seems a bit extreme, i think you should reconsider your method of dealing with you problems

just my .02 cents..........
Wow some people are unbelievable! This is a new product that is supposed to be “bolt on” and it appears that it did not. When you buy a bolt on product it should bolt on you should not have to immediately seek the company for bolt on related issues that is what the R&D is for before the finished product is released. I am not trying to sound like a –ick but if it comes with different hardware and instructions then the installer would be to blame. This would be entirely different if the product did bolt on and he had issues down the road then yes contact the company first but for the simple reason it didn’t doesn’t mean he should contact before posting warning others of product fitment issues. You should give them a call to see how they are going to resolve this issue though if you haven’t already. Just my .04 cents

This is a Race Part... Where it may not work with your intake system.. We cannot guarntee that your intake suystem will work with our intake manifold.. Being that a BRACKET is off by 1-2 inches.. I dont see why you cant just bend that little piece of aluminum to mount to that bracket hole.. Obviously we only make Short RAms.. It fit up fine with our intake system..
You didnt even try to come and talk to us about it.. Instead you come gun blazing and talk ish.. Thats just plain un-professional.. If you had problems with us before, obviously the problems were resolved, or else you wouldnt have bought from us again..

If you would have called us and talk to our tech's, we would have helped you take care of this..
We have never turned away our customers nor have never NOT helped our customers..



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