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Old 12-22-2005, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
The 2AZ-FE is internally balanced. These pulleys will not creat issues with harmonic balancing.

What is lacking is a vibrational dampener. I don't know for myself but some say that the OEM pulley is a solid block of steel that comes like that without a dampener. Others say that much mass acts as the dampener.

Many Supra owners have had engine failures due to uncontrolled vibrations from the crank. The tC has thus far no known issues dealing with a lightened crank pulley.
I dont know how these guys pinpoint it to the crank pulley, all the supra owners I know, try for 1000hp on STOCK Block, $hit is gonna break...
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Originally Posted by Sam_J84
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Yes A/P did build our first one. We designed and built these on our own. If you bought a pulley from us we may be able to offer you a discount if you wanted this one instead. The A/P pulley should not cause you any problems I still have one on my car the quality control just was not there.

If it was a good one from the start then you should be fine the design is good.
what does quality control mean? lol, like hpower said, it makes me happy i went with the NST kit.
Quality control means they did not do a proper inspection to make sure that the final product was created to the design specifications. This will result in some products that are within spec, and some that are out of spec, hence how some people have no problems and a few others do. It is NOT a design issue, just the manufacturer not following directions.
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stupid question:

is there a such thing as a SMALL harmonic balancer? like an extremely thin or small rubber thing...
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Originally Posted by zer0
I dont know how these guys pinpoint it to the crank pulley, all the supra owners I know, try for 1000hp on STOCK Block, $hit is gonna break...
http://www.suprasonic.org/public_htm...atedamper.html
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Old 12-23-2005, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
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I dont know how these guys pinpoint it to the crank pulley, all the supra owners I know, try for 1000hp on STOCK Block, $hit is gonna break...
http://www.suprasonic.org/public_htm...atedamper.html
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Old 12-24-2005, 05:29 AM
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thats for a supra, is it different for our engines?
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Old 12-24-2005, 06:48 AM
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how much did the previous pulley weight as opposed to the new one? Any one know how much the nst one weighs? stock?
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Well the 2JZ and the 2AZ are fundamentally different in design and characteristic so it's impossible to tell.

No doubt, the effect of the lack of vibrational damping was exaggerated by the immense amount of power those blocks were making.

To be honest, I wouldn't argue against these pulleys. At the modest settings the tC runs as (as opposed to 1000 hp @ 7000 rpm) I don't think these pulleys would cause too much trouble.

I wouldn't put one of these on my own car until a proper pulley with a damper is released but that's just me. By all means, I encourage you all to purchase these from ZPI. Although I wouldn't put a solid light pulley on my car, I would trust ZPI for performance (although this trust was slightly shaken recently - I'll say I trust anything from ZPI that has been tested by others :D )
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what exactly are the benefits of crank pulleys?
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Old 12-24-2005, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by InjentC23
what exactly are the benefits of crank pulleys?
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=98049
read on brotha!
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Old 12-25-2005, 01:41 AM
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thanks
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Old 12-25-2005, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by -NEMESIS-
how much did the previous pulley weight as opposed to the new one? Any one know how much the nst one weighs? stock?
I think stock is 5 pounds and the newest ZPI one is 12 ounces so a little less than a pound so its a pretty big difference.

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Old 12-27-2005, 04:04 PM
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i thought the last 1.1 lb pully was only 1 lb lighter then stock?? but hell what do i know lol 12 oz is light so buy it
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:08 PM
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the stock pulley was 4.4#s and the old one was 1.1#s

The V2 is 12.5oz so its about 4oz lighter
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:32 PM
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so if my wife ordered me one for christmas... is this the one i'm getting? (as you can tell, i have not recieved it yet!)
Just wondering.
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Old 12-28-2005, 12:01 AM
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I would think so, hopefully ZPI will chime in on this
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Im running the AP one and have no issues with mine, No noises or anything with mine. I dont notice a big difference in mine, but Im also running huge wheels that way a ton and a butt load of stereo in the car.
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Yeah zpi called my wife yesterday and said this was the one coming. So hopefully it will be here this week and I can get it installed this weekend! Cant wait!
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Old 12-29-2005, 07:41 PM
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I have the AP pulley and when I got it I could tell a huge difference. The engine feels a lot stronger from take off. If this pulley is lighter it should help a bit more but at some point the weight stops mattering.
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I finished ordering mine today so it should be here next week and I will be installing it and my new swaybars next week with my sponsor
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