Who knows what it takes to modify the CAI by Injen for the 07 to fit on the TRD Supercharger? Ive heard of it done, but dont know any of the specifics.

Secondly, are there any immediate problems anyone can identify by installing a CAI on the charger?

 

if you do go ahead and do it, make sure you get it retuned so that it will work correctly with the CAI.

 

What do you mean by get it returned?

 

the TRD reflash has it compatible for only what it is set for.. STOCK

when you add anything, if you want to run stoich then you want to get it tuned, that is the best way to mod any FI car, every step you take do a retune.

 

I wouldn't think you need to get it retuned JUST for the CAI, it will only add a few extra HP and TQ, so it won't make a big dif...retune would be a huge waste of money/time...but dont know how to make the CAI fit with the TRD SC yet, just experiment and ghetto rig it....?

 

to do this you have to cut the CAI after the MAF, and then cut the stock airpipe from the S/C at the CAI and connect it together.
its been shown a few times that S/C running the stock tune run lean with a CAI/SRI. so if you dont think you need to retune after the intake then don't, just dont get too ____ed when all that time running too lean catches up.

and is the 2007 S/C even out? you wont be able to use the pre-2007 charger with a 2007 tC even with an 07 intake.
the new header design is in the way and the ECU is different so the reflash probably wont work either.

 

2007 tC SC came out last month

 

but noboddy has posted visual proof unless i missed it here, it can be written down about all it wants though, i need real pictures at least.

 

gjpjr84, i have no visual proof buddy, but I just called my dealer b/c i just read this, and yes my dealer carries the new 07 s/c for me its 3850 installed and theres an a/t version and a m/t version, and supposedly no performance differences between the two. *right* And I don't have the money for it right now so i cant buy it just yet, planning on going turbo anyway, but just thought I'd give you a heads up that it is actually out there. I live out here in Vegas, so not sure if that changes anything, but I highly doubt it, I'd say call a dealer near you if your looking for one. Hope that helps you

 

wouldn't go turbo UNTIL warranty is up, after 60,000 miles, why waste your warranty??? Get the SC now, and add a turbo to IT later!

 

Hmm very good point Ben, that is actually the option I'm leaning towards right now, and not just b/c you mentioned it I got an a/t and the kit from ZPI is like 5400 bucks but thats counting on me removing and shipping to them, not sure how much it will be if they have to do all that. So yeah, can't shell that out right now, and the turbo kit is potent, not as much but still some power is better than stock But yes, I definitly am considering the SC first, but correct me if I'm wrong, since I just talked to the dealer, the S/C is only covered for the base 3yr/36000mile warrenty, after that it is not...I got the optional platinum warranty for 6yr/72000miles but the SC is not covered under it, however I dont know if the motor and etc still would be, I need to talk to my service department on it. Just curious, is that the way you are going on your car? S/C now and turboing later?

 

im actually not looking for an 07+ charger (i have an 06 and the charger is sitting in my parents living room at the moment.) thanks though. im just really into everything i can learn about the s/c. its just that with all the "my friend's buddy" type info floating around i dont like getting hopes up.
and almost 4k is a LOT to spend to just end up throwing it away in a couple years, IMO.

 

LOL, exactly, I KNOW I'm going to turbo my car...its just that void 5 yrs worth of warranty or settle for a S/C for 2 yrs and then void 3 decisions decisions decisions and I totally understand where you are coming from on the "my friends..." info, I hate it as well, I like pics, their closest to reality then seeing in person, but my dealer has them in and actually told me to stop by and make an appointment, unfornautly I told him I can't for now...but yeah I'll make a decision eventually Back on the thread topic though...does it honestly make that much of a difference CAI the S/C...seems like too much work for very small gains IMO, but i'm probably wrong lol

 

Well the cheapest right now is the stage 0 turbo from ZPI, it is on sale now I think. it is a DIY install. 2 cons = no intercooler, and voids factory warranty. 3 +'s makes a lot of power and easy to install, AND cheap. no matter how you boost your car, you can STILL make it faster. For ex, ZPI has engine packages ect...so don't worry about power, for now the bottom line is, do you want to void your warranty or not.

 

well the stage 0 is upgradable to any of the other stages.
so as a turbo starting point its pretty good and puts out some good numbers.
it working with such little boost it doesnt need an intercooler, like the S/C an intercooler doesnt add enough to make it worth it unless you will up the boost and such.

 

I drive an 07 scion tC a/t ! It is fast for an auto but could be faster! I hope to have enough $ or actually get the SC for graduation gift?!?! Or maybe ill take out another balance transfer, haha!!! My plans are to only SC it, and someday at other items, but probably not turbo, it is real hard on motors...I am a lead foot, so it's not a good idea.

 

Sure you can get away with no intercooler... But let me tell you this... 50* night I was still pushing in 60* air WITH an intercooler on my ZX2 @ 6psi (with the temperature very very slowly climbing, so if I were to do a 0->140mph pull I would be at about ~64* at the end of the run). I can only imagine how hot the air would be without the intercooler... meaning more timing would have to be pulled and a richer a/f would have to be run (i run 12.0:1 a/f all day on 9psi on the ZX2 with no problem).

Moral of my story? Get an intercooler, you'll make more power and it'll be safer power.

PS: I'm working with my dealership on the 07 tC S/C... it is available, but I have to wait until Scion reprograms their flashing machine for the new 07 reflash for the S/C.

 

That's odd, they sale the S/C but don't have a flash for it? or just your dealership? Yeah, I agree 100% on the needing an intercool for a turbo set up for both the performance and safety of the engine. Granted the stg 0 is "safe" and "cheap" (depending on who's pockets your digging in ) but for me, I have an a/t so I would definitly send my car to ZPI to do the upgrade tranny kit which is included in a stg1 kit that they make and its like 5400 or something like that all together. Definitly worth price when its saving the tranny lol. I'm the type that likes to do everything at once, not pieces here and there unless I already have a full setup...so get a S/C for now...keep my warranty, get use to the new power, save for stg 1 tranny kit or another kit that I like, made by turbo toyotas (very nice looking and well built), and then start the awesome task of upgrading and testing new parts. Sounds like a winner to me, all I need now is money LOL.

 

No, they don't have the S/C's in their stock, the warehouse in Portland, OR have them, but won't release them until the dealerships get updated with the TRD flash (supposedly happening within the weak). I had my dealership put one on order for me so we could get it as soon as they were released. I called several dealerships close to me... one flat out told me the 07 kits weren't available (haha, tool for a parts guy). The other two found it, but one was hella slow at getting me answers while the other one was right on the ball and verified everything (complimented the parts guy even on my part).

 

Sweet, hope that works out for you, I'll call mine back tomorrow, they didn't say they had to wait for them but I'll check...since he told me to make an appointment hehe I'm trying to figure out whats different from the m/t and a/t version though, did they have two versions of the 06? My parts guy was awesome he found it in about 2-5 mins and then was up front with me and told me to talk to his assistant tomorrow b/c he was way more knowlegable about the kit. Atleast he was honest, thats a plus for me