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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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Need help trouble shooting the car


Turbo kit installed , 1 hr later .... problems...

The car dies off regular idle. and sounds bad.

I have removed the spark plugs and they are soaked in thick carbon build up. what are some other things I can do check for problems.

The car is starting to smoke lightly (black) and strong smell of fuel. Buring alot of oil. No leaks, changed plugs to stock for now to trouble shoot. didnt help.

Internal problems that I should know of.

with a point spark system, what are other ways of looking for problems. .

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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what is your turbo setup and what management are you running, also your clearly not tuned yet... what size injectors are you running?
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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This is a friend posting for him,

Its looks like a greddy bolt up, as for fuel, stock set up, and injectors are stock as well from what I seen.
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Injectors are the ones that come with the kit. 440cc. And as for ECM it's the aem fic. I understand I'm not properly tuned but I don't think it would run smooth for 30+ min then out of no where go crazy. I'm thinking the air fuel ratio sensor is doing it cause we kina banged it around to get off. So I'm going to try that. And I think it might be burning oil in the turbo which I think might be attributed to the return line. I think the guy who welded it on didn't read what I gave him to tap it so it might be to low, causing oil to get backed up.

What I want to know is the return oil does it have any pressure cause if it doesn't then this is plausible and I think I can test it by removing the return hose and seeing if it acts somewhat like a drain. Does that sound right??
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And stock are in right now but they were the greddy ngk's I'm gonna pick up new spark plugs today swell. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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try the greddy base map that goes with the 440 injector you can down load it at dezod website they have there free for down load under tech support or something...
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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the basemap is for the greddy emanage nevermind
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 03:47 PM
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or try the aem fic basemap ment for the s1 kit at dezod motorsport website then drive to tuner get tune...
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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ok ill try that. and yeah im getting it tuned hahaha he just couldnt do it this weekend. hopefully he can get to it on monday. but ill try that basemap/
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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could be primary 02 sensor problem but im leaning more towards tune...gl
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Well ima try tuning it a little today see if that helps.
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Well ima try tuning it a little today see if that helps.
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anyone got a 440cc injector basemap for an FIC for this man?
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that would be really helpful thank you.

also i just plugged the computer and seems i lost half of the map.
what would cause that?
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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sounds like ur running so rich
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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so i was about to pull of my oxygen sensor to check it. and found the pipe to the turbo exhaust side dangling. reinstalled it and runs perfect now. aside from an exhaust leak at the manifold. but just need to get a thicker gasket for it. i now noob mistake, but id like to thank everyone that gave input.

im still confused as to why my fic got rid of half of its maps?
any input on that would be great. but i have a base map in for now til my tuner can get to it.
Old Jul 25, 2010 | 11:24 PM
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u know how to ulpoad the maps right? ur manifold sounds like its needs to be resurfaced if its leaking... most of us are using OEM gasket, it may need to be resurfaced.
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 12:39 AM
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Oh really!? Ok well I gotta pull the manifold off anyway. And yeah I loaded the aem base map . Not for my year but it works and will get me to the tuner.
Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:51 AM
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Did you get the oil return line redone? To answer your question, oil return line is not pressurized. It's gravity feed back into the oil pan. Fitting is to low, then it will go the path of least resistance....straight back up into the center housing, causing your turbine to leak and blow oil.
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^QFT and fouling everything in the engine before getting cooked off and causing a smoke



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