Mr_Meaty

I would have no issues getting work done by PTuning.
I respect them immensly.

But I have a relationship with turbotoyotas and they have NEVER let me down. I have the utmost confidence in Todd.

Reffering to Todd's relationship with ERL as the "middleman"...I'm not certain of ERL wanting to deal with vendors and not individuals, but in my office (completly non-automotive related) we have vendors who send work offsite to companies that we could deal with directly if we wanted to, but it is easier for us to deal with one company for all our needs and have them deal with the multiple vendors for the other stuff...it's just easier for us.
It also lends for quicker turn around as those other vendors have a reputation with each other and knows how each other likes their stuff done, whereas when you deal with a new company (on individual) it is more likely that you will have mixups in communication at the very least...

Ace83

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haha i read it all this time.. anything from ptuning, TT or dezod.. if it was java making a long post, i doubt i would even finish reading the title

java09

i repp TT till i die..


one love.

tC_2NeR

i dunno man

i hadda take my TT kit off

between the long long wait

the crap pipes that hang unacceptably low

the bov that hits my hood

not sending the spipe out that was supp to be included with my kit

and the ugly pipe going across the engine bay, I just hadda throw it out.

I got a Dezod kit goin in next week...all brand spanking new parts with some tricks up my sleeve!

dezod fTw

scikotictc232

^^ you getting their new alpha kit or just an s1 ?you had the v2.1 or the first series ? ^

tC_2NeR

I had the simple kit.

I have the S1 sittin in my basement ready to go...

Ill be running AEM meth injection on 12lbs of boost on a 57trim .63a/r

i had the manifold ported and polished at a local shop in NYC.

Flint Mica painted piping also...ill be high temp clear coating the manifold..thinking about throwin some flake in there also

Mishimoto race radiator

some pretty lookin things lol

Ill see how it goes

scikotictc232

should have bought the V2.1 kit with new pipes. better performance.

TT mani > dezod log

tC_2NeR

and wait another 4 months? and be told that its gettin shipped out over and over again?

the extra whatever whp to me is NOT worth it at all

scikotictc232

worth it to do it right.. Todds turbo kit will be more efficient than the dezod kit.

tC_2NeR

Not true at all....

the manifold doesnt make a HUGE difference at the boost levels im going to be running.

Dezods kits are well built...tested with time..and perform to expectations...

most of all they shipped my parts in 3 days and the piping wont scrape the ground

Ace83

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he had a TT kit and wasnt satisfied so he bought a dezod kit

BlackKnight

I wish I could say the same but I can't!

Ace83

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lets not get off topic now.. lets go back to built motor thread

crush02342002

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are we talking about ERL built blocks or turbo kits...im lost...lol

crush02342002

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hahaha...posted at the same time...nice

scikotictc232

he had a simple kit not a tubed manifold. different story.

tC_2NeR

^it doesnt matter...a ramhorn vs. Log at low boost
is not a big difference

Example: on 6psi i made 247.5whp...
Mr meaty with a tube mani made 252 on 5lbs

Not a big difference

The turbo you run is the heart of your kit

crush02342002

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im not trying to argue with ya on anything but imho making 5hp more on one less psi is actually pretty nice if you think about it....i mean its no huge thing but it is interesting.

anyways i thought we wher talking about erl built blocks....id personaly like to hear any info folks have about em and their experiance.

Mr_Meaty

Well...it's not just max power...it's the delivery of power and the RPMs at which that power is deliverd. But yeah, at 5psi, you are not going to see teh full benefits of an EL manifold.

If all you plan on running is 5psi, or if you hae an automatic, a log style might actually be better. But then again, those guys will not be building their motors, which is what this thread is talking about...

Bryan06tC

My motor was built buy ERL through Todd...... there was no miscommunication problems.... Todd made things as low pressure and comfortable as possible...... and as a Mech. E. I can tell you the work done buy ERL is impecable..... TT ftmfw ... Todd is great.... if you are having a problem with Todd lets be honest its probably out of his control.... he wouldnt purposely delay shipping or poorly design something.... that would just be ludacris from a business standpoint..... but these things happen to all companies...... how many of us have taken our tCs back for recall warranty work??? I dont see anyone complaining about that!!! Point being even the largest companies with the best designers in the world(like Toyota, Nissan, Honda) have issues..... thats just the way things are....