Would this have any benefit on an almost stock car? Just wondering...

 

Yes you would gain. You can fine tune the car. The gains would not be as good as a turbo car but yes you can gain with a stock motor set up with bolt on's...

 

what kind of gains will we see.

 

It is hard to say on a stock car. I know the turbo cars are getting big gains and safe tune...

 

I am getting my TC in a couple of weeks, and even at 19 yrs old, paying for the car myself, I trust the AEM soooo much that I say fukc the warranty (7 yrs) once the EMS comes out, my scion WILL be force inducted.


P.S.
So please hurry up!!!

 

someone told me you lose luxury of having a working air condition...as odd as that sounds is it true?

 

Maybe because some cars, when turboed, the air condition is not compatible because of the manifold/turbo. That's why, a lot of turboed Hondas do not have A/C. I am not sure if A/C is compatible with turbo in a TC because I don't own a kit, and going back to your question, I really doubt that the AEM EMS deletes the A/C.

 

from what i was told, it wasnt just honda's. and yeh i am aware that some cars do lose it because of the turbo but i was told it was more the EMS then turbo..still waiting for more info on this

 

Its the way to go. Good choice but witch turbo kit are you going to use?

 

Still in the air right now, but to be honest, I can get any turbo kit, but without the EMS, it's not going to perform as I know it should. I know what this thing can do, I have seen cars with this in action. What it comes down to is the tune. The fastest turbo kit don't mean ____ without a good engine management. Yes you don't need one, but I am only 19 and paying for a $25k car/insurance isn't something I can pull out of my ___ if I blow this ____ah up. I rather pay the scrips now than later, because I know if I have to pay later, It's going to be more than the EMS+tunning. You know what I mean?

 

Parts_Pimp: I know you know this.

 

ok nvm. i think they already resolved the a/c issue.

i call bs. i doubt u've worked on any tuning aspects of those cars u claim. using split second doesnt always give u a chance to tune out a comfortable idle. and yes, u'll find urself toasting motors without a proper ems. how the hell are u supposed to control fuel/ignition timing/cam angles and such?

a proper standalone system is the ONLY way to go if u boost IMO. piggybacks only "trick" signals to the stock ecu. newer cars nowadays will try to override the piggyback and just ____ everything up when it has the chance to. stock ecu is always running closed loop to get to 14.7 a/f, now this is bad for a boosted application. a piggyback will help to a certain extent, but i would never find myself using one.

dont cheap out on the most vital component of a boosted setup. driveability, idle, HP numbers, safety, etc all rest on EMS. AEM's standalone is a really good system in my book. if anything less, i'd say minimum Greddy Emanage Ultimate for the tC.

u can do so much more with it, raise your rev limiter a bit and u get a longer window to make power and tune off of. set safety boost cut limits to prevent boost creep from blowing ur motor. so much more! u control every single aspect of how ur car runs.

 

ok nvm. i think they already resolved the a/c issue.

i call bs. i doubt u've worked on any tuning aspects of those cars u claim. using split second doesnt always give u a chance to tune out a comfortable idle. and yes, u'll find urself toasting motors without a proper ems. how the hell are u supposed to control fuel/ignition timing/cam angles and such?

a proper standalone system is the ONLY way to go if u boost IMO. piggybacks only "trick" signals to the stock ecu. newer cars nowadays will try to override the piggyback and just ____ everything up when it has the chance to. stock ecu is always running closed loop to get to 14.7 a/f, now this is bad for a boosted application. a piggyback will help to a certain extent, but i would never find myself using one.

dont cheap out on the most vital component of a boosted setup. driveability, idle, HP numbers, safety, etc all rest on EMS. AEM's standalone is a really good system in my book. if anything less, i'd say minimum Greddy Emanage Ultimate for the tC.

u can do so much more with it, raise your rev limiter a bit and u get a longer window to make power and tune off of. set safety boost cut limits to prevent boost creep from blowing ur motor. so much more! u control every single aspect of how ur car runs.

 

Just a note, anyone that lives in a state that does obdII inspections cannot use this system if I remember correctly, NY being one of them.

 

Why is that???

 

well if it's standalone, it will make your obdII diagnostic port inactive. The only standalone I know of that is obdII compatible is one of the Hondata systems, and well... we can't use that.

I could be wrong as I haven't checked on this lately, but this is what I discovered about a year ago when I was looking into getting the AEM for my other boosted car which happens to be a 97 model. In order to pass emissions in NY, they scan for OBDII codes so this would not work for me. This only applies for 1996 and newer cars.

Maybe there is a way around this if you know "SOMEONE"

 

Well right now the AEM we use just piggy backs the stock ecu. There is no plug and play just yet. So yes it is a stand alone but your stock ecu is still in the car running some stuff so the obdii port will work

 

well thats actually nice to hear. Is there any cel or are all codes clear? If so then this would be a good solution

 

i'd like to get my hands on it to try it. it says manuals only correct? but i think i can make it work for my auto.

 

Its doesn't make it completely useless. I know the plug and play aem on the vipers actually uses the obd2 port to interface with the aem ecu. All that information and there are only three prongs on the serial to obd2 connector.

Charles