AEM F/IC conflict with TRD
Hey everyone. I'm new to Scion life...looks like a good forum. I've been building my tC for some time now. I have the TRD supercharger, intercooled pulling between 315-335whp depending on my fuel setup. I'm using the AEM fuel ignition controller, which is pretty easy to use, and i must say it's better than eManage. I encountered a lot of problems with the piggy back system initially. After multiple trial and error session, dyno runs and street tuning, i discovered that the TRD flash conflicts with piggy back systems. It doesn't allow the car to come out of closed loop, keeping fuel lean at 14.7 (3.27V) after 3K on the RPM band. It runs fine under vacum, but once you're in boost, and pass 3K, the car shuts down and stays in closed loop while in boost, which sucks. What sucks even more, and stupid really, is that once you flash your stock ECU with TRD, you cannot go back. I had to buy another ECU ($175) from a junk yard. And now the system works great.
Just letting everyone now, be sure you are intending on just running the TRD charger the way it is and not modifying it, cause once you do, you can't go back to the stock calibration of your ECU, otherwise you have to replace your ECU to start modifying.
If anyone has any question, or if opinioins differ, i have talked with toyota and TRD directly, and they are in agreement with me. If anyone needs help tuning AEM, let me know, i'm very familiar with it now.
I work @ Obsession Motrosports in rockville MD. www.obsessionmotorsports.com. Let me know if you have anyother questions on modyfying your tC. I've done everything you could possibly do, except body kit and paint (coming soon though).
Just letting everyone now, be sure you are intending on just running the TRD charger the way it is and not modifying it, cause once you do, you can't go back to the stock calibration of your ECU, otherwise you have to replace your ECU to start modifying.
If anyone has any question, or if opinioins differ, i have talked with toyota and TRD directly, and they are in agreement with me. If anyone needs help tuning AEM, let me know, i'm very familiar with it now.
I work @ Obsession Motrosports in rockville MD. www.obsessionmotorsports.com. Let me know if you have anyother questions on modyfying your tC. I've done everything you could possibly do, except body kit and paint (coming soon though).
i'll post the pics. The stock ECU cannot be flashed back, i don't know who said you can. Got that info directly from toyota and TRD. Not to mention every toyota scion technician who knows there stuff.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
Originally Posted by bruhadze
i'll post the pics. The stock ECU cannot be flashed back, i don't know who said you can. Got that info directly from toyota and TRD. Not to mention every toyota scion technician who knows there stuff.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
yup reflash back to stock is not new and has been done.. there's like 1 or 2 that hit 300 mark on s/c and thats with heavy mods not just the tune and IC.. you asked trd/toyota and thats what they say
Originally Posted by kikcaffine
Originally Posted by bruhadze
i'll post the pics. The stock ECU cannot be flashed back, i don't know who said you can. Got that info directly from toyota and TRD. Not to mention every toyota scion technician who knows there stuff.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
I did lose around 1.5 psi, so i have around 10.5lbs of boost, which makes well over 300whp. I'll have my dyno proof once i get it from my shop shortly. and I'll post pics of my setup. I made an error on my description for my pulley, it's 12lb pulley from NST. I don't know how to go back and make correction to my signature.
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Originally Posted by coryjames
why is every one so quick to hate? give him a chance bashing him wont make your pp bigger
Its only bashing because its so freaking unrealistic.
a sc could get there on 10 pounds with some water meth to and some good tuning its not unrealistic when i post my dyno graphs people wont trust it either lol i was on 7.5 pounds posting some rather large numbers
Originally Posted by coryjames
a sc could get there on 10 pounds with some water meth to and some good tuning its not unrealistic when i post my dyno graphs people wont trust it either lol i was on 7.5 pounds posting some rather large numbers
I am not gonna call BS but with those mods only its hard to believe. Please post the dynos and all your engine/power mods. You gotta have more done like meth or cams to get to that whp on our superchargers.
meth injection i don't have. i can understand everyone's skepticism, but the charts you will see. they'll be from a superflow dyno (the best and most realistic dynamometer) with the shop logo so you don't have to second guess. I'm not trying to step on any toes, but horse power on this motor is very easy to find in little places. first of all, colder air = more power. So the numbers i'm suggesting, and have tested are very doable. there's a guy on youtube with a s/c setup doing 311whp with just a good tune probably and a good amount of boost. why is it so unbelievable to have a s/c make this much power? boost is boost isn't it, turbo or s/c. I'll have pics up soon along with dyno runs.
Originally Posted by bruhadze
meth injection i don't have. i can understand everyone's skepticism, but the charts you will see. they'll be from a superflow dyno (the best and most realistic dynamometer) with the shop logo so you don't have to second guess. I'm not trying to step on any toes, but horse power on this motor is very easy to find in little places. first of all, colder air = more power. So the numbers i'm suggesting, and have tested are very doable. there's a guy on youtube with a s/c setup doing 311whp with just a good tune probably and a good amount of boost. why is it so unbelievable to have a s/c make this much power? boost is boost isn't it, turbo or s/c. I'll have pics up soon along with dyno runs.







