Any blown motors from F/I?
 

I mean has anyone blown a tc motor and say 10psi or less. SC or turbo. I'm planning on going f/i this summer. I just really have to be carefull as this is my daily driver. So I want to feel safe about doing this. I plan on running low boost 7-10 psi and Im wondering, if anyone has had problems or blown a motor or anything yet.

I have had issues with my motor, but it was N/A.. thats a long story, if interested, just read the thread in my sig named "Gotti's Saga".. you will learn all the garbage I went through.

I dont think there has been many issues, maybe a handful of engines that have had issues with both s/c and t/c. I think the majority of the issues were in fact mfgr errors or improper tuning, or too much boost for the stock block.

Hope that helps your questions some.

there were a few peeps that had problems with the SC.

but it was because they never had the ECU reflashed.

yea i read gottis saga. total crap wha happened to u btw. but regarding FI thats all I've noticed so far. So as long as I get it properly tuned and stay in the 'safe' boost range I guess I'll be fine.

Yeah, def sucked..

Exactly though.. just remember, you can go faster, just cost more, and you can do a crappy tune or not do one at all, and watch the problems kill your car.. just do it right the first time, and service it.. only thing you would have to worry about then would be bad parts poppin up on ya.. like me :P

i think munch has blown his motor...

With the Turbonetics kit? I dont remember seeing that. Didn't his kit blow a bearing in the turbo though?

up to how much horsepower can the stock motor handle?

i would say about 300hp for a DD

im sitting at 265whp for a DD and im not having any problems besides my driving. its hard to get used to FI with a drive by wire system. alot of weird things happen when you hit bumps :(. Im running 10psi by the way, on stock everything. If i change out my exhaust i can free up a buttload of hp, but local laws are preventing me, i dont need any tickets.

laws???

what the hell are laws? :P

this is a link to my previous vehicles, i damn near paid their values in tickets.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/132933
i live in a commonwealth, therefore we have retarded laws. altered suspension, headlights, taillights, exhaust. any mods to those right off the bat, your hit with a ticket. no questions ask. no shaving no bags nothing!.. sucks ___.

dumb laws...

sux more than cali

virginia is one of the worst states for customizing cars. on that geo i use to have a set of the lights on the hood for the windshield washer fluid, i just put them in and didnt even wire them up, i got pulled and ticketed. apparently your not allowed to have lights above your headlights on your vehicle. and it went through in court! i want to move to florida.

i live in VA and i have an exhaust nothing happened to me

this is not an attack on fairfax but lets be honest, there is no reason for the police to be aholes there considering you dont get alot of tourist traffic. if you think im lying ask mtxgalant (whose in training to be part of va police) and gmoney. i live at the beach area, and norfolk is not as bad. also if youve been watching the news there was a big bust in norfolk where 80+ tickets were handed out for people sitting in a parking lot. i was there, i left with my tint ticket, others werent so lucky. some got impounded, others got multiple tickets for altered equipment.

ah true true. But i have takin my car down to Norfolk close to ODU and nothing happened and cops saw me at the gas station

well i can tell you from experience, they are no slouches here for stupid tickets. ive lived here my entire life, they are no joke.

then you have people who have out of state plates (alot of navy folks) and think they wont get ticketed for their stuff. i had a buddy with a 95 eclipse slammed with green lights near the rear license plate and a custom exhaust. he had florida plates, got 3 tickets, went to court to fight them , told the judge he wasnt stationed here that he was only passing through, judge replied ignorance of the law is not an excuse, pay your ticket and get out of my court room. they dont play games here. not every cop is gonna get you every time.
example of that, me and a few buddies were messing around, we were doing 85 in a 55 down a long stretch of road. a cop pulled up within 1/4 mile behind me before i noticed him and i was still doing 85. i slowed down and the little rsx next to me slowed down. cop gets behind him and follows him (big chrome exhaust hanging out the back). instead of following me which he had to know i was speeding because he caught up to my ___ with the quickness he decided to follow the rsx. so its not an every case deal.

On topic


The only tC motor I've seen blow on f/I was pushing 500+whp on a stock block. So, to answer your question, for others on low PSI, I have yet to see any blown motors. (I'm not sure if Munch blew his motor. I thought he just bought another one for the purpose of building it?)

THats the benefits of living in Wext Virginia, not Virginia...the only thing that is really illegal on cars is flashing blue/red/white lights when your driving, speeding, and no cat onverters....but no one even notices that.

one time i drove my old S-10 with blue neons for about 50 miles with the neon lights on....passed 4 cops, 2 on the interstate....never even paid attention....but i think that was a fluke

Sorry to hear the VA cops were not giving you a break

wow he jus bought another one? how much are new 2AZ motors or did he get one out of a camry or somethin?

another example of how stupid va police are. under that geo was a purple set of neons. i got pulled over and threatened to go to jail if i didnt turn them off and disconnect them since purple apparently is impersonating a police officer. i found this kinda stranage since blue and red are their colors, so im not sure if the ahole was f'ing with me or being serious. wasnt gonna findout so i unhooked them with the quickness.

What stock block tc has made 500whp?

ZPI racing's Silver tC was near the 500whp mark (not on a 16G by the way). They had some turbo pistons in it, and that was it. When it blew, he was going down the 1320, and still managed a 12.3 with like a trap speed somewhere between 117-120mph. It's ZPI racing, so they can afford to push the stock block and blow it to test the limits, as I'm sure they have about 10 or so more engines laying around the shop... :rofl: (Now only if I can get my hands on one, and do a built motor with it and swap over our turbo kit to the built one... :evil:)

yeah they do have a bunch of motors laying around the shop, ones that they are trying to improve..

A, you said 500 * + * whp which obviously implies more then that.
B. you said *stock block* which an engine with "turbo pistons" is not.
C. I want to see a dyno sheet otherwise I call B.S.

I dont doubt that its not possible to make 500 HP with a stock sleeved block. I definatly say its not possible with a 16G (which you just clarified that it wasn't) and I see anyone having a very hard time making it on a log manifold and the stock ecu in place.

Besides, even with a trap speed of 120mph in a 3100 pound car, theoretically you would still only be hovering in the 418 whp range, which is much more do-able.

well i dont know numbers of those motors i just know they had alot to play with! lol

If there wasn't a critic everytime someone posted something, this wouldn't be ScionLife..:yawn:

lol, if there wasn't a critic then everyone would be driving around 500whp stock block tc's.

rhythmnsmoke , agreed. its amazing isnt it? :]

didnt like world descent or something like that blow their motor and then send to zpi to fix?

LOL...That's a first. Naw, I don't think it was WD. Let's see, we have

2 ScionSpeed kitted people who took their car to ZPI because of problems (one blew I believe, and ZPI fixed it)

Matssi had the Dezod kit, and ran into problems, so he rolled down to ZPI to get work on and re-tuned.

BuddatC also had the Dezod kit, and the last time I checked, he was shipping his car down to ZPI also.


You mean if there wasn't for Haters then everyone would be driving around 500whp stock block tC's....Pardon "turbo pistoned" stock block tC's.

tc motors can take alot of punishment thought its the trainys that have issues sometimes

WD isnt even out yet...Rado has the only one.

Dude, an engine with aftermarket pistons in it is not a "stock block". It might have a stock block but at that points its prolly not even the stock bore.

I guess I can say I have a stock block since I only have aftermarket rods, pistons, studs, ect? I mean, afterall, the block itself came from toyota in these cars.

Call me a critic if you want, because thats exactly what im being. Your post will lead someone to believe that their bone stock tc can make 500+ whp without changing anything.

How can it be misleading when I said it had turbo pistons in it? One mod, in my book dosen't constatute a "built" motor. If it's not a stock block because it has turbo pistons in it, then what do you call it? Cause it's for sure not a built motor.

its in the middle lol :rofl:
anyway 500hp on stocksleeves and only pistons...pretty incredible. I dont think anyyone expected that from a 2AZ.

You'd be suprised..

It's sure not stock :rofl: Can I call my motor stock :lalala:

It's sure not built :rofl: Can I call my motor built :lalala: