Notices
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction Turbo and supercharger applications...

Boosted TC nitrous question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:13 AM
  #1  
tc1003's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 77
Default Boosted TC nitrous question

Current specs:
Greddy Turbo kit,Race clutch,Race Flywheel,Greddy E manage Ultimate,Tein Coil over suspension,HKS turbo timer, B&M,Sway Bars,AAM fuel rail

Is it safe to add nitrous to this setup 75-100 shot to this car. I will have the car in a week im new to the turbo scene. I want to cool the intake temps and gain some more power at the same time. I think there are two options for this alky and nitrous. I could be wrong thats why im asking. The turbo is as delivered 8.5 psi.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:15 AM
  #2  
Ace83's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Ronin Scion
SL Member
Premium Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,117
From: TX
Default

on stock motor no...
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:40 AM
  #3  
all4degame's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,043
From: Broken Arrow, OK
Default

If you want to spray, spray your intercooler, not directly into your motor.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:44 AM
  #4  
tc1003's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 77
Default

I thought it was better to spray inside (nitrous) than outside (spray ic) when it comes to power gains. Am I missing something? Also I was told spraying the IC would not produce power gains. Is that true?
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:48 AM
  #5  
DJ08tC's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 6,159
From: Spotsylvania, VA
Default

Yea it is better for power to spay nitrous but you will blow your motor up really quick, you are already putting strain on it with the turbo setup.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:50 AM
  #6  
all4degame's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,043
From: Broken Arrow, OK
Default

What you don't understand is that your motor cannot handle much more power without some serious upgrades. Yes, your motor will yield more power if you spray directly into your motor, but your motor will also pop like a fire cracker not after long. Spraying the intercooler will make your inlet temperatures noticeably lower, producing more power. I have heard it increases power about 30 whp+ from some WRX guys. I would say if you wanted to do nitrous, spray your intercooler. If you wanted to spray directly to your motor, I would tell you to think otherwise.

Personally, I'd say stay away from nitrous.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:57 AM
  #7  
tc1003's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 77
Default What do you think the motor can take before

What do you think the motor can take before motor upgrades are needed power wise? Is it topped out where it is now around 260HP or can it go up from there? How must boost can it take before motor upgrades are needed?
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:01 AM
  #8  
all4degame's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member

Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,043
From: Broken Arrow, OK
Default

To be conservative, I would have to say 325whp daily on 12psi tops. You don't want to go much higher than that if you want to keep your motor around for a little while. All this is with a near perfect tune I would have to say, ideal numbers.

Lose the nitrous idea, just up the boost and get a really really good tune.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:38 AM
  #9  
gingles's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,881
From: Denver, Colorado
Default

^agree......only way i would spray nitrous is on my intercooler......if you want to lower intake temps and get more power do water/meth......alot safer and better then nitrous......it allows you to run more timing without detonation.........the most important thing on a turbo car is the tune.........you can have the faster turbo tc alive but only be able to run it down the track once....
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 03:44 AM
  #10  
rangerryda's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,251
From: Melbourne, FL
Default

^^ all very good input. 2 power adders makes tuning a beehotch. Spray on intercooler or do water/meth if you must but I would just up the boost if you're only at 8.5 psi.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:33 AM
  #11  
Mrsanchez925's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 402
Default

if ur gonna spray your intercool Ditch the nitrous and get a Cry02 kit... and u can also spray into your intake which will drop the temp levels and is 100X safer then nitrous
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 09:44 AM
  #12  
scikotictc232's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,020
From: Tri Cities Washington
Default

what more than 360 ft lbs of torque do you want ? get an alky meth kit and make that torque with that kit. check out doddadys car, same set up.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 01:38 PM
  #13  
rhythmnsmoke's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Music City Scions
Scikotics
SL Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 16,747
From: TN
Default

Meth injection will serve you well.
Old Jul 15, 2009 | 02:06 PM
  #14  
rangerryda's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,251
From: Melbourne, FL
Default

I <3 Meth.... wait what we talkin' bout again? lol jk
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bootlgr
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen ICE & Interior
1
Jan 26, 2016 01:22 AM
Greg S
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction
17
May 28, 2015 12:46 AM
Scionxa180
Scion xA Owners Lounge
8
Mar 13, 2015 04:39 AM
TotalChaos
Scion tC 1G Drivetrain & Power
13
Feb 4, 2015 10:24 PM
xBassist
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Suspension & Handling
9
Jan 21, 2004 07:34 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 01:42 AM.