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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 02:20 AM
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has anyone done it or does everyone just pay mega bucks for a slap on one?
Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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custom saves you money if you have connections and what not with a shop... but if you dont... its gonna be pretty hard to piece it together...
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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i completely disagree with the above statement. It has nothing to do with connections, it's "do you know what the hell you are doing"

a DIY quality kit can be put together for under 2500$. this is using all the same parts that companies offer.
Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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I pieced together my turbo kit for my srt for around $3k it included:
Garrett T3/T67
Tubular manifold
Downpipe and exhaust
injectors
fuel pump
FMIC
wastegate
BOV
greddy emanage
greddy Eo1

and i think that is it
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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I'm in the proccess of doing this myself. it will be at least 6-9 months before it's said and done but I plan on doing a DIY whrite up on it when I'm finished.

most of the parts will be used because I have so many friends of mine are constantly upgrading to better parts and selling their stuff for exremely cheap. also I will be building my own manifold and down-pipe, if some of you welders want some help or tips when I'm done let me know.

in the mean time a sneak peak at my turbo, it's a t3/t04e-60. stage III ceramic ball bearing by turbonetics.
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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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i'm really digging the ATP T3 cast manifold. i think i'm going that route. i'll be port-matching everything as well
Old Feb 19, 2007 | 04:57 AM
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yea build your own can be alot cheap if you know people...especially when they upgrade and get rid of their parts
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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I actually pieced together a turbokit, my car is at the shop as we speak.

I spent about $2000 on the following parts

Treadstone Turbo manifod
Precision Turbocharger
Turbo Concept Wastegate
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve
Intercooler
Morton 630cc Fuel Injectors
Unichip - Turbo Tuned
ATP Turbo Downpipe
Universal Intercooler piping

Shop will be cutting my Injen CAI for to use the MAF sensor piece.

After all fabrication and install, my setup will cost about the same as a bolt-on kit.


My advice... keep checking the private sales and grab all the best deals you can.
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I actually pieced together a turbokit, my car is at the shop as we speak.

I spent about $2000 on the following parts

Treadstone Turbo manifod
Precision Turbocharger
Turbo Concept Wastegate
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve
Intercooler
Morton 630cc Fuel Injectors
Unichip - Turbo Tuned
ATP Turbo Downpipe
Universal Intercooler piping
Great shopping rock! Sounds like it is going to be a nice kit. Not to thread jack or anything (and maybe this will answer someone else's question) but how much power do you anticipate/hope for with this setup, and at what PSI?
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 01:56 AM
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I'm doing 6psi. I'm being conservative since this is my only car and daily driver.

I chose 6psi because with 6psi spring is ideal if i want to add a boost controller.
Old Feb 23, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by aveosam
yea build your own can be alot cheap if you know people...especially when they upgrade and get rid of their parts
so true... i can almost build a whole new setup with all the F/I parts I have in my basement after swapping out half the parts in my setup.
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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I make my own custom setup and I can't say it was cheaper. I spend over $8000 on the whole thing and I don't even open the engine yet. One thing it's for sure I'm very happy with it!
Old Feb 24, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Well, custom can be VERY good if you know what your doing and can snag some killer deals or used parts. We tend to sell a lot of turbochargers, BOVs, wastegates and such to the DIY'r. So I guess we deliver on all platforms in that aspect.
For the Joe that does not know it all, a kit is the best way to go because of the fact of lack of knowledge, time or fabrication skilss. There are a lot of nickle and dime pieces and such that tend to eat up costs when boosting and atleast our kit encompasses 98%, if not all of them.


Remember: Precision, Innovative, Turbonetics, Garrett or TiAL......we have em all!
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hey dezod I've been looking at your ic piping kit. wondering if your pipes come with a beads on them to prevent a pipe blow out. and also does it come with any silicone or clamps.

thanks
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hey dezod I've been looking at your ic piping kit. wondering if your pipes come with a beads on them to prevent a pipe blow out. and also does it come with any silicone or clamps.

thanks
We do not have a bead roller, but we include 4 ply high temp silicone clamps and T-bolts to ensure that the seals are tight on our turbo systems. Our charge pipe kits do not include silicone for the price listed. Call me this week if you need it all and a special deal. ;)
Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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What is everyone going to do as far as tuning is concerned? What about Gauges? I think that is a real important part of all kits, you need to monitor everything going on with the car. I think some of the most important to have are Boost, A/F ratio (wideband), Exhaust Gas Temp (EGT), and Oil pressure. Using three of those gauges brings the total of your DIY kit up quite a bit, but I think it will be worth it in the long run. I am wanting to build my own as well, and I am piecing things together very carefully. I look at some turbo-kits and the way they run their intercooler piping and I ask why!?! For example, not ******* on turbonetics or anyone that is running it, but why did they run their intercooler piping the way they did?

take a look at the design, the piping leading to the intake goes right passed the downpipe. Why would you do that? I am sure it raises the temp quite a bit, maybe not as substantially as I am thinking but enough to make me look into running my intercooler piping a different way. My ideas are numerous, but I do know that its all going to be done by me. I am hopefully going to be designing and making my own manifold, piping, and downpipe.

Sorry to thread jack, but I would say for a good quality DIY kit and having someone else do the work would easily cost 3.5k.
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Hey, just to let you know before you do anything you might want to search heavily for prices. All the F/I setups i've ever owned I've made myself and I've done quite a few. It will be worth your while to price out parts. For example I've made a setup for a friend's 00 Eclipse who didn't search and spent well over $5k for his parts for an extra 250hp, mean while I put togheather a setup for a 00 Tiburon for under $2,500 that after proper tuning made 450hp at the wheels. If you need some help let me know and I may be able to point you in the right direction.
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Originally Posted by DOUSWLO
Hey, just to let you know before you do anything you might want to search heavily for prices. All the F/I setups i've ever owned I've made myself and I've done quite a few. It will be worth your while to price out parts. For example I've made a setup for a friend's 00 Eclipse who didn't search and spent well over $5k for his parts for an extra 250hp, mean while I put togheather a setup for a 00 Tiburon for under $2,500 that after proper tuning made 450hp at the wheels. If you need some help let me know and I may be able to point you in the right direction.
did you buy new or used parts? Did you tune yourself? What did you use to tune? How can a Tiburon with stock internals make 450whp as you clame? I wouldn't run that daily. I know I have searched on prices (new items), and something decent can be thrown together for about 3k, but you will have somethings missing. List your parts that you purchased for $2500 and we will go from there. Not trying to bash, I would just like to see what all you got for that cost.
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Custom TD-04 turbo bored 7mm to accomodate larger compressor wheel *used*
Custom Exhaust Manifold (weld-el style w/ 45 dergee off shoot for wastegate)
Tial V44 Wastegate *used*
Custom 3" Exhaust, no cat, res, or muffler
Turbo XS RFL BOV *new*
AEM EMS *barely used*
650cc injectors *new*
supra fuel pump (walbro) *new*
60mm throttle body *new*
custom light weight pullys (NOT underdrives)
Convert to MAP
Wideband 02
Custom intake manifold (log style)

...and I never said anything about not going into the engine...

ceramic coated alum pistons
p-n-p heads
ceramic coated exhaust side of head
radial valve job
decompression plate for heads

Oh and btw "custom" means I made it myself and all the internal work I did myself also. Yeah it was my daily driver too, 60 miles one way to and from work. A high power F/I car does NOT have to be unreliable. All tuning done by myself using a friends shop and dyno.

Hope this puts some of your doubt to rest man
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by HP_Pirate
hey dezod I've been looking at your ic piping kit. wondering if your pipes come with a beads on them to prevent a pipe blow out. and also does it come with any silicone or clamps.

thanks
We do not have a bead roller, but we include 4 ply high temp silicone clamps and T-bolts to ensure that the seals are tight on our turbo systems. Our charge pipe kits do not include silicone for the price listed. Call me this week if you need it all and a special deal. ;)
I really wish I could buy this week. I'm just doing my parts research before I have all the money. the only thing I have right now is the turbo and oil lines (and I may end up buying your feed and return system). you have a lot of great stuff and I would love to sport you products on my car. I want to wait untill I have the money and just buy what I need from you all at once. thanks for the support though.

someone asked up top about engine management, I will be running aem stand alone when my wallet gets full enough.



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