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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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Default Greddy install....thoughts and tips

Before we go on, I have to thank four people from Scinergy to help me make this happen. WideTC was the catalyst and driving force for keeping this thing rolling. Wvufan provided much help and support. Batjew was also instrumental in the finishing of this project. Gortok was the only way that this car would have moved. Thanks to all of you!!

Now on to topic...

As many of you know, the GReddy kit is lacking greatly in the instruction manual end. If you were to go to the website and look it up, you'd know exactly what I mean. Sadly I didn't document what exactly we did, nor did we take pictures, but I can still offer some helpful hints for those that are going to install this themselves.

1. Don't let the sheer number of parts overwhelm you. Go one step at a time, and make sure you've done everything as best you could. Check and double check, and use the online instructions to verify pictures.

2. During the install of the turbo to the downpipe connector, there is a section where you must utilize 5 stud bolts. My kit came with what seemed to be 7 stud bolts, but one is longer than the other. Do not use the longer one in the corner piece because that is used in the actual manifold install. Since all the bolts and nuts and washers are lumped together in the instruction manual as "51~59" the parts list in this section is next to useless. Don't despair and use 5 stud bolts of the same size. Don't worry about tightening them super tight (just tight is good) to the turbo, because when you tighten the nut and lockwasher, the stud bolts will tighten them also. The last stud bolt of the same size was never used.

3. The longer stud bolt was used in the actual mounting of the turbo manifold in one of the corner section. The reason for this is that the provided bolts are too long to actually fit into this particular area of the manifold and the turbo housing. I suggest you get some other lock washers as well so you can lock both nuts that affix to this "stud bolt".

4. As many of you have read, the provided heat shield in the GReddy turbo kit was not well thought out. Firstly, you will affix a bracket behind the oil dipstick bolt. This is the longer 90 degree bracket. The longer flat section of the heat shield will be against the alternator, and the shorter section that turns 90 degrees again into a triangle will be facing the ground. As far as the heat shield itself, I had to cut a section of it out so that the turbo manifold would be able to fit in. On the small "lip" section of the heat shield, near where there is a bracket hole, roughly 1 inch from the edge, I began my cut, and proceeded to cut a half moon. Once you are ready to install the turbo manifold and turbo, move the shield towards the radiator, and slide the manifold in place. Shift the heat shild back forward, until the bottom bracket hole is lined up, and then bolt it in. It wil not rattle, because the downpipe connector does push on it.

5. The 440cc injectors DO have a polarity. We found this out the hard way by wiring all four injectors wrong. The positive side from the stock fuel injector harness is actually the black wire. Once you have clipped your current injectors off, make sure you compare it against the new injectors to find which side od the injectors it goes on. .Another point when it comes to the fuel injector install....the stock injectors have a rubber "O" ring at the tip. Make sure you get all four of those and transfer them to the new injectors because they function the same way and provide an airtight seal for the fuel to get into your combustion chamber.

6. For those using the eManage system, I do reccomment getting the Dezd PnP harness so you need not cut into your ECU wires. When using this harness for the eManage, make sure to follow the instructions provided, with the exception of setting JP2 from "1-2" to "2-3" The provided eManage instructions have it diagrammed for you so you know which one is JP2.

For now that is all I can think about.

Performance wise, even though the eManage base map gets a lot of bad press, it seems to be running fine. Despite this, I do still intend to get a professional dyno tune tomorrow.
Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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Keep the text reasonable please. Thanks!
Old Oct 9, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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congratz
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Originally Posted by tikbhoy
congratz
Thank you.
Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Congrats on another Greddy install. I dont know why the Greddy tune gets a bad rep as well. Ive seen 3 greddy kits running on the base map for months.

Enjoy the Greddy kit, now I need mine to get here.
Old Oct 11, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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nice. congrats. im really really thinkin about this kit. maybe in the spring/summer time :D unless i come up with a lot more money and then ill go dezod :D
Old Oct 11, 2006 | 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by davedavetC
nice. congrats. im really really thinkin about this kit. maybe in the spring/summer time :D unless i come up with a lot more money and then ill go dezod :D
Let me know when your ready....


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6. For those using the eManage system, I do reccomment getting the Dezd PnP harness so you need not cut into your ECU wires. When using this harness for the eManage, make sure to follow the instructions provided, with the exception of setting JP2 from "1-2" to "2-3" The provided eManage instructions have it diagrammed for you so you know which one is JP2.
Correct, and for future reference we have opened a tech notes section on our website with some great info for you guys!

http://www.dezod.com/tech_notes.cfm
Old Oct 11, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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My speedometer moves like a tach now :D However, some more advice. For the bottom plate, the bolts that you mount the intercooler with, see about getting the same bolt but 1/4 to 1/2 inch longer. I haven't done this yet, so the bottom of my car is a bit exposed. Primarily this will help protect some of your piping from rocks, and also because if you only install the parts connected to the wheel wells, wind velocity will rip this off.
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does any1 have a dyno chart for the greddy kit yet?
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by freestyle789
does any1 have a dyno chart for the greddy kit yet?
I got mine, but it's not optimized because in a few months I am gonna get some other stuff. I asked for safe and fun. I'll post the whp and the crank hp when I get to a scanner.
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just tell us we know u got a dyno, and post it up later, but how much are you runnin?
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 02:48 AM
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229.3 whp = 269.8 hp at crank

at the crank, peak torque was 313.4

*edit* this was only tweaking A/F ratio. We haven't touched injection timing yet.
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nice. stock exhaust? if not what exhasut do u have (click the link in the sig..... im tryin to get Dezod to do a GB on their exhaust both NA and turboback)
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I have a Borla from the factory....it says catback but we all know they lied =P That's one of the things I have to look into.
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do it :D and post up on the Gauging Interest thread or at least vote :D
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Dynojet or Mustang Dyno?

Friend just dyno'd his turbonetics with an axleback and got the same numbers.
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Originally Posted by zer0
Dynojet or Mustang Dyno?

Friend just dyno'd his turbonetics with an axleback and got the same numbers.
Dynapack. Hub dyno, not drum.

http://www.dynapack.com/dynapack.html
Old Oct 12, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rabid_Lemming
229.3 whp = 269.8 hp at crank

at the crank, peak torque was 313.4

*edit* this was only tweaking A/F ratio. We haven't touched injection timing yet.

Keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing it in person.
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod

Originally Posted by Rabid_Lemming

6. For those using the eManage system, I do reccomment getting the Dezd PnP harness so you need not cut into your ECU wires. When using this harness for the eManage, make sure to follow the instructions provided, with the exception of setting JP2 from "1-2" to "2-3" The provided eManage instructions have it diagrammed for you so you know which one is JP2.
Correct, and for future reference we have opened a tech notes section on our website with some great info for you guys!

http://www.dezod.com/tech_notes.cfm

Would switching JP2 settings from "1-2" to "2-3” still apply for the Emanage Ultimate?
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Originally Posted by MysTiKchRis


Would switching JP2 settings from "1-2" to "2-3” still apply for the Emanage Ultimate?
The JP2 setting only applies when you use the Dezod PnP harness. As far as the eManage Ultimate, I'm not sure. During my research, I had read that Ultimate has far more jumpers. Hopefully soon, someone that has experience with the PnP harness and Ultimate can tell you definitvely.



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