greddy turbo kit
02-08-2010, 05:42 AM
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greddy turbo kit
after looking into all the kits and finding out about forum priceing from dezod
im proly going to run their kit.....and have the waste gate spring change and run 10psi
now i just have to get a new clutch lol
im looking into turboin the dd ive look at the greddy kit as well as the
dezod kit what im wondering is if the e-manage ult. is worth it and weather i could just change the waste gate spring and run 10 psi on the greddy kit im also continplating meth. injection...
if any one has a kit for sale send pics to worrgp@juno.com
thanks
im proly going to run their kit.....and have the waste gate spring change and run 10psi
now i just have to get a new clutch lol
im looking into turboin the dd ive look at the greddy kit as well as the
dezod kit what im wondering is if the e-manage ult. is worth it and weather i could just change the waste gate spring and run 10 psi on the greddy kit im also continplating meth. injection...
if any one has a kit for sale send pics to worrgp@juno.com
thanks
Last edited by worrgp; 02-08-2010 at 06:45 PM.
02-08-2010, 07:33 AM
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from another members words.
FIC is for going to the grocery store
ultimate is for making sure your not looking at the other guys tail lights.
and this has been covered before. countless ultimate vs fic threads....just do a quick search and youll find it.
FIC is for going to the grocery store
ultimate is for making sure your not looking at the other guys tail lights.
and this has been covered before. countless ultimate vs fic threads....just do a quick search and youll find it.
02-08-2010, 12:37 PM
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also depends on your tuner, if your tuner prefers FIC, then go with that, if he prefers Ultimate, then obviously do that!
no sense in getting something that is not gonna be used to its full potential, everyone has their favorites, both will work great when setup correctly!
no sense in getting something that is not gonna be used to its full potential, everyone has their favorites, both will work great when setup correctly!
02-08-2010, 03:00 PM
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ya u can change out ur wastegate spring to a 10lb spring instead of getting a boost controller if you wish. Ive been in both ultimate and FIC cars... FIC cars are smoother and feel stock turbo... not saying the ultimate cannot but fic is just smoother.
02-08-2010, 03:13 PM
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02-08-2010, 06:02 PM
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ive got a full turbonetics kit for sale, absolutely everything you need, with a greddy emanage standalone system. I was going to build my tc, but decided to sell it and get another corvette. lookin to sell the kit, i also have the brian crower valve springs, 2 ARP head stud kits (one sealed in box and one opened but not used), and i have a cometic head gasket for lowering your comp ratio when you boost. lemme know of any interest. Im looking to move the parts fast, but ive got too much money in them to give em away. oh yeh, i heard Ultimate is better than FIC.
edit: The turbo in the turbo kit is freshly rebuilt by G-Pop Shop in Arkansas. Kit is basically brand new and is missing no single part.
edit: The turbo in the turbo kit is freshly rebuilt by G-Pop Shop in Arkansas. Kit is basically brand new and is missing no single part.
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02-22-2010, 11:39 AM
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j/k. I enjoy helping people though when they want to listen. I'm allergic to Idiots though.
02-22-2010, 05:28 PM
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02-23-2010, 07:36 AM
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However I have no first hand experience with the Ultimate so if someone can explain to me how it handles closed loop fuel tuning and the lean CL to rich OL transition without modifying O2 sensor feedback to the ECU, I'd be happy to learn. I know you can simply add fuel in CL but without skewing the O2 sensor feedback, the ECU is likely to either set a CEL for rich bank or trim the added fuel out.
02-23-2010, 11:03 AM
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That comparison seems a bit exagerated considering the Ultimate's apparent lack of sustainable closed loop fuel tuning and the FIC's new capability to tune off the TPS for lag-free fuel delivery on WOT.
However I have no first hand experience with the Ultimate so if someone can explain to me how it handles closed loop fuel tuning and the lean CL to rich OL transition without modifying O2 sensor feedback to the ECU, I'd be happy to learn. I know you can simply add fuel in CL but without skewing the O2 sensor feedback, the ECU is likely to either set a CEL for rich bank or trim the added fuel out.
However I have no first hand experience with the Ultimate so if someone can explain to me how it handles closed loop fuel tuning and the lean CL to rich OL transition without modifying O2 sensor feedback to the ECU, I'd be happy to learn. I know you can simply add fuel in CL but without skewing the O2 sensor feedback, the ECU is likely to either set a CEL for rich bank or trim the added fuel out.
I'm the one who said it. And the comparison is not "exaggerated". Ultimate does not lack sustainable closed loop fuel tuning. And every piggy back can tune off of TPS, that's nothing new.
Closed loop driving would fall under the "daily driver" category (i.e. no hickups going to the grocery store as mentioned in my statement).
Best to tune the Ultimate off of Boost with the Pressure sensor, and not TPS.
Main reason for my comment is that the F/IC is not "race" inspired. It contains none of the competitive racing features that the Ultimate does. Hence the comment that the Ultimate is to make sure you are not staring at the guys tail lights.
02-23-2010, 12:46 PM
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I'm the one who said it. And the comparison is not "exaggerated". Ultimate does not lack sustainable closed loop fuel tuning. And every piggy back can tune off of TPS, that's nothing new.
Closed loop driving would fall under the "daily driver" category (i.e. no hickups going to the grocery store as mentioned in my statement).
Best to tune the Ultimate off of Boost with the Pressure sensor, and not TPS.
Main reason for my comment is that the F/IC is not "race" inspired. It contains none of the competitive racing features that the Ultimate does. Hence the comment that the Ultimate is to make sure you are not staring at the guys tail lights.
Closed loop driving would fall under the "daily driver" category (i.e. no hickups going to the grocery store as mentioned in my statement).
Best to tune the Ultimate off of Boost with the Pressure sensor, and not TPS.
Main reason for my comment is that the F/IC is not "race" inspired. It contains none of the competitive racing features that the Ultimate does. Hence the comment that the Ultimate is to make sure you are not staring at the guys tail lights.
The ult does not tune part throttle... it makes correction anything above 0 PSI.
no boost no need for 11.6-12.6 afr.
02-23-2010, 01:17 PM
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2-3 PSI at 40% throttle would be part throttling, unless I'm missing the definition of part throttle tuning somewhere.
It can override Closed Loop Cells if you tell it to turn ON those cells that are otherwise labeled as OFF. Thus overriding Closed loop cells and controlling them.
However, my statement has nothing to do with part throttle tuning. Part throttle tuning is overrated for a street car. Never heard of anyone blowing up because they were part throttle boosting on even an Emanage Blue. I part throttled on the blue (without part throttle tuning) for over 3 years. It's all hype.
When do we part throttle....to pass a car on the interstate...lol. Not like we racing or something.
Tuning off of Boost > Tuning off of Throttle
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02-23-2010, 02:22 PM
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02-23-2010, 05:20 PM
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02-23-2010, 06:02 PM
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also depends on your tuner, if your tuner prefers FIC, then go with that, if he prefers Ultimate, then obviously do that!
no sense in getting something that is not gonna be used to its full potential, everyone has their favorites, both will work great when setup correctly!
no sense in getting something that is not gonna be used to its full potential, everyone has their favorites, both will work great when setup correctly!