Here is a quantified list of results and some interesting data. Some might remember the thread I wrote about asking users for some of this data...here it is! Kinda puts an interesting perspective on things.

Boost Level Break Down:
75% of the users are at 5-9 PSI, while the remaining 25% are 9.1 PSI and up.

Engine Management
Approx 75% of the users are using the E-manage Blue
Approx 13% are using the E-manage Ultimate
The remainder are using the NEW AEM FIC or our AEM EMS.

Transmission:
95% 5 Speed, 5% Auto

Of all of the 5-9 PSI people on our kit, which includes 1 auto (at 5 PSI to make 227whp) have averaged power from 227whp-308whp.

More specifically, ALL of the 5 speeds involved ranging in the 5-9 PSI category, made 233whp to 308whp. The lowest 5 speed owner registered 7 PSI in the mountains and made 233whp (on an 8 PSI WG spring).

People with 8-9 PSI that used the GReddy E-manage Blue yielded more power than those with the E-manage Ultimate. None of the low boosting people with our kit used a standalone, so this is only comparing piggybacks.

There was a VERY limited amount of our kit users with the AEM FIC, but the few that did have this unit yielded more power overall at the same boost levels. 2 cars in the same area making the same power, same kit, same turbo, one with an E-manage and one with the AEM FIC:
FIC @ 8 PSI 282whp
E-manage Blue @ 9 PSI 277whp
**Note-One more PSI of boost with all else remaining constant, the AEM FIC yielded more power on less boost.

Onto the higher boosters!!!! (9.1 PSI and more)

All of these users had E-manages with our kits and power was from 271whp to 306whp. No supporting mods where made to support more power. Boost levels in this group where from 10-11 PSI with a large variance. Most of which we attribute tuning and small turbo variances like A/R.

The most impressive result was a 5 speed on a E54 DBB with a Stage 5 .63 A/R that made 259whp on 5 PSI with our kit.

That is all for now.

 

nice right up man

 

good infos, nice to know.. I want to see more people get better numbers on aem fic

 

Yeah this was really interesting for sure

 

why do you think that this is the case??

 

yea greddy emange ult is more of a system

 

Do so few people run turbo's on a/t's because the tranny's can only handle ~250whp before slipping?

I'd go turbo if I didn't NEED my car to be an everyday driver :-\

I love turbo lol

 

it not so bad driven daily with a turbo if u have 250whp in a auto it should be better for every day driven then a stick

 

i agree. i DD mine and its been great to me.

 

I DD mine, and I love it.

 

am i the one with 308whp paul ?

 

hahaha you wish..

I was at 308.5 at 8.9psi w/ 2.5" exhaust, now I have my 3"

 

^^^ did you have a full 2.5"exhaust?

 

I had Dezod's 2.5" Turbo Back Exhaust

 

ok just checking... i guess most people go to a full exhaust ... i was wondering while my hp was so low. oh well doesnt matter anymore. ptuning 3" is coming... thanks for the reply

 

Not A problem, I love my 3"

Sounds mean too!

 

hope i can contribute soon. i had my kit for over a year but never got it dynoed. im pretty sure i won't be making a lot of power compared to majority of the guys though since i live in hawaii.

 

Hardly. It's crap!

Truthfully, cost.

 

plus its probably more benificial to build your motor and raise the boost then go standalone then go the other way around. Thats the debate im going through right now.

Interested in results and numbers for people with the standalone. i wanna see some 2step and antilag videos!

This is the way I see it (want to get a discussion going here?)

Here is where the average turbo tc guy is at now;
260-290WHP, Between 7-9psi, Emanage, Completely Stock Motor. 550cc Injectors, Some have the walbro installed (I do)

The debate
Route 1: Build your motor, turn up the boost, straight power
Rods, Pistons, Bearings, Head Gasket, Head Studs, 700cc Injectors
Price: $3500 Installed and retuned, mostly for parts and assembling the motor
And there are variables such as getting camshafts, methanol injection, electronic boost controller

Route 2: Go standalone
AEM EMS, Boost Solenoid, MAP Sensor, Your insane tuning bill
Price: $3500 installed and tuned. 2k for the ems, 1k with some cushion for the tune
variables = camshafts, methanol


Expected Results:
Route 1:
Pros: Your probably boosting around 16-17psi and your putting down 380WHP+. When you finally hook hopefully in 3rd you are OUT because of course you gutted your car by now and it weighs around 2700lbs
Cons: You have absolutely no traction, no launch control, and youre redlining at 6250 (how weak) and you cant control boost for ____ because your still on a cheap MBC which suck

Route 2:
Pros: You now have full control over your car (or your tuner does) You can set 2step launch control, change your rev limiters (but remember were still on a stock motor so dont get crazy), your boost line is incredible consistent. You are now controlling VVT-i for some extra horsepower. The EMS has an electronic traction control.. but I have yet to hear results of it.
Cons: Now your around 330-340WHP holding 9psi steady as a rock. But be careful.. anymore and your pushing the stock block to its limits. We all saw ScionGT35Rs rods after he pushed 356WHP. They were BENT!


Not sure what the conclusion is but its horsepower vs control here
Cost is around the same, but are you willing to sacrifice 40-60WHP for the launch control, boost control, vvti control and all of the other advantages of the EMS. But remember you are almost out of room for expansion if you choose the control route.. because that motors not gonna last long being stock.




Idk was bored at home and its snowing.. wanted to strike up some discussion for the day

 

actually, i also made 308whp @ 11psi with a 2.5exhaust, tuned by paul at a dynojet.