Notices
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction Turbo and supercharger applications...

IDLE A/F ratio 10.0 please help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-09-2009, 07:45 PM
  #21  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
ElevationTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 4,156
Default

Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ are you 100% about that? i thought stock maf housing is 2.5 pipe? but i doubt that the problem he has though, he has major fueling issues not just sections of it.. im sure its the tune

Yup Yup... I experienced this first hand before... I had almost the same problems!
ElevationTC is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 07:52 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

I'm about 80% sure my intake is 2.5".
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 07:55 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
ElevationTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 4,156
Default

because ur boosted! and tuned.. non tuned factory comp... NO good
ElevationTC is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 08:04 PM
  #24  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

OP is boosted too.
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 08:18 PM
  #25  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
bridfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 309
Default

Originally Posted by ElevationTC
Originally Posted by Ace83
^^ are you 100% about that? i thought stock maf housing is 2.5 pipe? but i doubt that the problem he has though, he has major fueling issues not just sections of it.. im sure its the tune

Yup Yup... I experienced this first hand before... I had almost the same problems!
the same problems? hmm ill get it tuned and see if that helps, thanks alot
bridfi is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 08:53 PM
  #26  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
bridfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 309
Default

is it safe to drive this car at 17-18 a/f ratio?

will it cause damage, ive been watching for overheating problems and it keeps cool, i think that would be the only issue, right?
bridfi is offline  
Old 03-09-2009, 11:53 PM
  #27  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Premium Member
iTrader: (4)
 
davedavetC's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 20,411
Default

absolutely not. 17-18 is way too lean
davedavetC is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 12:12 AM
  #28  
aen
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
aen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Las Vegas!
Posts: 5,750
Default

check the o2 sensor
aen is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 03:30 AM
  #29  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
OuterHeaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 627
Default

First things first. Did you reset your ecu yet?? If you have not then do that FIRST! I had very similar conditions that you had before but the only difference was I was turbo'd. It was not until it got really bad that I had a code that said my front o2 sensor was dead. One thing I did notice was it got better if I reset the ecu but only for a little bit. It would idle at 14 AFR for awhile but then suddenly it would idle at 10 or less AFR. After that it would always idle at 10 until I reset the ecu again. Anyways I would try and change your front o2 with a known working one.
OuterHeaven is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 03:52 AM
  #30  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
bridfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 309
Default

no, ill reset the ecu tomorrow before the drive to work, didnt think of that, good idea. but thats only a temp fix

the o2 sensor i have is nearly brand new, it only has 700-800 miles on it...

have an appointment with shawn church this saturday, aem fic and harness should be here wed. or thurs.
bridfi is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 10:37 AM
  #31  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
crush02342002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 11,271
Default

im going to agree with ace on this one but as always check the small stuff first. i wanna say it could be vac leak or a leak at the tb, if not those look to tuning to fix this problem.
crush02342002 is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 01:17 PM
  #32  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Ronin Scion
SL Member
Premium Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Ace83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 11,118
Default

Originally Posted by bridfi
is it safe to drive this car at 17-18 a/f ratio?

will it cause damage, ive been watching for overheating problems and it keeps cool, i think that would be the only issue, right?
you will not most likely see any overheating problem since out stock cooling system can manage a lot of heat.. but those afrs absolutely arent good, you will lose a good amount of power with those especially on boost and will raise up your EGTs..
Ace83 is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 03:03 PM
  #33  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
bridfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 309
Default

reset the ecu this morning by pulling out the glove box and pulling all the harnesses for the ecu, then plugging them back in a few minutes later (could not find tool to remove batt terminal)

afrs were tons better, way easier to drive. cruising in 5th resulted in about 14.5-16 instead of the prev. 18-20

i doubt its anything under the hood, i checked all vac lines, they are all fine. regapped the spark plugs already to .028

getting tuned this sat.

staying out of boost hoping my car will make it to saturday

still dying at every red light just about, all CEL codes are cleared and gone

thanks guys
bridfi is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 03:54 PM
  #34  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
ElevationTC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 4,156
Default

i bet it has something to do with your maf! BUT once you do get tuned shawn will clean it up and ull be fine!

Put some water/meth in that car and tune it!
ElevationTC is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 03:56 PM
  #35  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
teamNJCT
Fresh Crew
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
CarbonXe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parsippany, NJ
Posts: 16,646
Default

Why not just get a rental for the week? It'll be like $150 for a full week...which is thousands cheaper than replacing a motor.
CarbonXe is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 08:20 PM
  #36  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Well the 07-08 maf is different than the 05. So if your using that engine with an 05 ecu i'd imagine there would be come calibration problems etc.

p.s. my 05 has a 2.5" intake at the maf, i know that for a fact cause i got one of those maf adapters that was 2.75" and didn't realize it made a difference untill i saw it was running lean.
gompka is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 10:58 PM
  #37  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
bridfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: California
Posts: 309
Default

Im using the '05 MAF.
bridfi is offline  
Old 03-10-2009, 11:36 PM
  #38  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (5)
 
gompka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 1,713
Default

Originally Posted by bridfi
Im using the '05 MAF.
oh ok, maybe spray some maf cleaner on it? Make sure the maf sensor o-ring got seated properly.
gompka is offline  
Old 09-10-2009, 11:44 PM
  #39  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
weezyfbayba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,355
Default

any update on this?
weezyfbayba is offline  
Old 09-11-2009, 01:51 AM
  #40  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Rydrdg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Area 51
Posts: 955
Default

He has a Scion tc ecu on an XB thats the problem the Tc ecu runs diffrent for the scion tc setup even thnough they share same engine. wiring is more different.
Rydrdg is offline  


Quick Reply: IDLE A/F ratio 10.0 please help



All times are GMT. The time now is 01:09 PM.