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hahaitzskippy 08-20-2004 10:57 PM

intercooler!?
 
does anyone know if the supercharge is gonna come with/optional intercooler?! because that supercharger is going raise the cars temperature a little.

JZA70 08-20-2004 11:00 PM

ive heard no mention of an intercooler from trd, but do you know what purpose an intercooler serves? it sounds like you think it will let the engine run cooler, which isn't really true...

RacingSolution 08-20-2004 11:08 PM

Well the rumor is a stage 2 and 3 supercharger... and the intercooler is on both of those stages from what I understand.

EbolaSalad 08-20-2004 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by JZA70
ive heard no mention of an intercooler from trd, but do you know what purpose an intercooler serves? it sounds like you think it will let the engine run cooler, which isn't really true...

An intercooler decreases the air/fuel mixture temp thus making it more dense. More air/fuel per cubic inch equals more power.

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JZA70 08-21-2004 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by EbolaSalad

Originally Posted by JZA70
ive heard no mention of an intercooler from trd, but do you know what purpose an intercooler serves? it sounds like you think it will let the engine run cooler, which isn't really true...

An intercooler decreases the air/fuel mixture temp thus making it more dense. More air/fuel per cubic inch equals more power.

HowStuffWorks.com description

i know what it does... i was asking skippy...

EbolaSalad 08-21-2004 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by JZA70
i know what it does... i was asking skippy...

Sorry, I misunderstood.

chucksu 08-21-2004 02:17 AM

Re: intercooler!?
 

Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
does anyone know if the supercharge is gonna come with/optional intercooler?! because that supercharger is going raise the cars temperature a little.

Also something not said is a normal supercharger runs cooler then a turbocharger because you are not dealing with exhaust gas. So unless you are running a large amount of boost a normal supercharger will not need a intercooler.

JZA70 08-21-2004 02:58 AM


Originally Posted by EbolaSalad

Originally Posted by JZA70
i know what it does... i was asking skippy...

Sorry, I misunderstood.

its cool :D

itimebomb 08-21-2004 03:48 PM

yes TRD has an intercooler that will be available with the S/C. from what they were telling us they say the car will push around 250 with both.

chucksu 08-21-2004 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by itimebomb
yes TRD has an intercooler that will be available with the S/C. from what they were telling us they say the car will push around 250 with both.

So would it be a FMIC or a TMIC? If they offer a choice they should have a option hood with scoop to help if it was a TMIC. I think if they designed the hood just right it would add a killer look to the tC. Also with a TMIC you would not lose as much response because you dont have as much pipe for the boosted air to travel through before it gets to the engine.

smurf3642 08-22-2004 08:41 AM

Re: intercooler!?
 

Originally Posted by chucksu
Also something not said is a normal supercharger runs cooler then a turbocharger because you are not dealing with exhaust gas. So unless you are running a large amount of boost a normal supercharger will not need a intercooler.

Couldn't hurt!

:D

hahaitzskippy 08-22-2004 09:42 PM

no... some superchargers do produce more heat and puts hot air into you car. thats one the main problems and thats why more companys are switchin frum SC's to TURBO's

sorry i lose the article on SC's but sum SCs tend to produce a lot of heat and results in needing a intercooler.

and yes i know that intercooler mak the air denser and produces more power and all that good stuff.

and yes i know turbo's runnin hotter and so an intercooler is usually slapped on.

i was just asking cuz having an intercooler would mean more $$ spent, but look way cool! hahaha

JZA70 08-22-2004 11:20 PM

top mount with a hoodscoop would be cool, but lots of $. they will definitely not do that. also, i bet it would be a b*tch to work on the motor lol.

2200fire 08-22-2004 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by hahaitzskippy
no... some superchargers do produce more heat and puts hot air into you car. thats one the main problems and thats why more companys are switchin frum SC's to TURBO's

incorrect. supercharges ALWAYS run cooler under similar conditions. ALWAYS.

and the other guy was referring to normal superchargers which would be usually 4.5 psi. which would not need a intercooler. this set up usually give 40-50 hp. try putting on ANY TURBO and have it at a psi that woul dyeild similar gains but try not hooking up an intercooler!! lol youd say bye bye turbo.

superchargersare fairly close to the heat of a turbo WITH intercooler. so if you put a intercooler on to a supercharger the supercharger is alot less hot.

the more likely reason for any company deciding to go with a turbo is that they can claim much higher mpg ratings on the cars because you can drive a turboed car around as if it didnt have a turbo and get similar gas mileage. downside is the power curve of a turbo is not as good as a equally matched supercharger.


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