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Old May 9, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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So I go to Mcdonnalds to get some food with my girlfriend and Im sitting there at the pick up window for a while and see a little smoke come up from the rear. I go hmm must be from the car behind me.. Look behind me hmm no car there. As Im waiting at the window the mcdonnalds guy opens the window and looks at the back of my car and goes "Uh Hey your car is smoking" I look back and my car is puffing light gray smoke from the tail pipe. "No f'in way I say" lol I go home and take everything apart to find this..


This is the Exhaust side of the Turbo Charger... Oil shouldnt be in here

So Im going to send the turbo back to www.turbochargers.com they are going to check it over and see what went wrong and hopefully exchange it for me. Another long wait is in store for me...
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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what kit do you have?
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Stage 0 with custom FMIC..
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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im guessin thats a ZPI kit? looks like just a blown seal, as though you dont already know that! that should be easy to fix! what would cause it, Overheating?
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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hmm...were you running a oil pressure restrictor on the feed line?? You coulda blown the seals in the turbo from to much oil pressure. Our cars run real high pressure which isnt good for Garrett turbos.
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:20 AM
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^--- i did not know that! what drives our oil press up so high?
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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well, its not like they are terribly high, I know on my xB oil pressure under full load was like over 80 psi, im not 100% sure on the tC though cause I dont have an oil pressure gauge
Old May 9, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
well, its not like they are terribly high, I know on my xB oil pressure under full load was like over 80 psi, im not 100% sure on the tC though cause I dont have an oil pressure gauge
On a tC its around 75 to 80psi

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im guessin thats a ZPI kit? looks like just a blown seal, as though you dont already know that! that should be easy to fix! what would cause it, Overheating?
Yes ZPI kit! LOL to your second comment

I found this info while surfing

The term "blown seal" is widely used to describe a turbo that has oil coming out of it. In reality a turbocharger seal cannot become damaged until the freeplay of the shaft has increased to the point where the blades of the turbocharger have been rubbing against the housings. Blade contact usually requires more than .035" of side to side movement of the shaft. In some cases it is even possible to rub the blades and still not damage the seals.

If the turbo is new and the shaft isn't loose and bouncing off the housings, but oil is coming out of it chances are you can correct the problem without even taking the turbo back off the car.

The seals within the turbo are not meant to hold back a bearing housing that has become full of oil. They are designed to sling the oil mist and spray within the bearing housing away from the point where the shaft comes out each end. If the bearing housing becomes full of oil it will ooze out past even brand new seal rings.

The oil should freely drain out of the bearing housing as quickly as the engine supplies it. This is why the drain tube is so much larger than the supply tube. Gravity is the only force moving the oil out of the turbocharger. Any slight restriction in the oil drain tube, even a small silicone dingle berry, can slightly impede the draining of the oil and cause oil to back up into the bearing housing.
Im wondering if I should send it back just to be sure?
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that sucks.
Old May 9, 2006 | 01:01 AM
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Send it back.. Its warrentied right? The EVO GT turbo worries me in general..
Old May 9, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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-1 for the EVO III GT Big 16g Turbo
Old May 9, 2006 | 04:30 AM
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Ouch, blown seals = happy seals, or bad news when it comes to turbo's.
Old May 9, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Some Facts about the Evo 111 GT turbo.
-It’s not a genuine Mitsubishi product, in other words its not a true 16g, it’s a cheap knock off made in China.
- It’s not a ball bearing turbo, so the high oil pressure of 75-80psi shouldn’t do it harm.
- Remember people you only need a low oil pressure on ball bearing turbos. Those will screw up the oil bearing with high oil pressure.


A suggestion for the thread starter, send that knock off turbo back and demand a genuine Mitsubishi 16g turbo. Remember that if it says EVO 111 GT it’s not the real thing.
Old May 9, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Lets not start any 16g Drama, leave that to the DSM boards..
Old May 9, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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It's not drama its facts!!! If you don't believe me do some research!!!
Old May 9, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I own a DSM I know everything you do.
Old May 9, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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dang dude, ever since you put that kit on you've turned your car into a hyundai. crap load of problems to the bone.
Old May 9, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rperez
Some Facts about the Evo 111 GT turbo.
-It’s not a genuine Mitsubishi product, in other words its not a true 16g, it’s a cheap knock off made in China.
- It’s not a ball bearing turbo, so the high oil pressure of 75-80psi shouldn’t do it harm.
- Remember people you only need a low oil pressure on ball bearing turbos. Those will screw up the oil bearing with high oil pressure.


A suggestion for the thread starter, send that knock off turbo back and demand a genuine Mitsubishi 16g turbo. Remember that if it says EVO 111 GT it’s not the real thing.
LOL You just stated facts Im pretty sure everyone already knew!

Originally Posted by tikbhoy
dang dude, ever since you put that kit on you've turned your car into a hyundai. crap load of problems to the bone.
LOL sad part is I use to beat on my Hyundai all day and never had this many problems with it KDM 4 LYFE!!!!!!
Old May 11, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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we have had 3 blown seals out of well over a hundred turbo kits. We have used the EVO III for years and have nothing but good things to say about it. I know there is a lot of drama surronding it but you should not believe everything you read on the net.

Turbochargers.com will warranty it with no issue. So there is really no concern.
Old May 11, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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^Bump 4 ZPI guys doin their jobs and homework!!!!!!!

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