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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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hi guys
i have a custom made turbo kit
it got a T3-T4 turbo and an external 38mm waste gate

the problem is that the boost is too high (around 16PSI)
i wanna lower the boost down but the waste gate is not adjustible
so here's the thing:

is it ok if i cut the spring????
because i want from 5 to 6 PSI of boost
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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http://cheapturbo.stores.yahoo.net/tial35hpwas1.html

Problem solved.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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With the problems that could arrise from a stuck wastegate, it is highly advisable to not ghetto rig anything inside of it.
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 12:51 PM
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why dont you just buy a new WG spring??????????????
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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you need to buy a new spring...

im no engineer but... i THINK i can explain why you CANT cut the spring. this is just from what i remember from my CAD/engineering stuff from high school so i might be wayyy off base but i think if you cut the spring you actually increase the force required to compress it. remember, F = kx. F(force) would be your boost, k is the spring rate(a shorter spring of the same diamter results in a higher spring rate, theres another formula for this but i dont remember it) and x is how far you compress the spring(this is constant in this scenario, the wastegate "opens" the same amt no matter what) so... simple multiplication... if you increase k (by shortening the spring) and x remains the same... F has to be increased to compress the spring, thus higher boost..

did that make sense? lol. if my logic is flawed someone tell me... in short, dont cheap out, buy a new spring. hell even if im wrong, buy a new spring... NEVER a good idea to cut corners on an aftermarket turbo kit...
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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its like cutting springs to lower ur ride, its not going to work properly and break. dont give yourself headaches by cutting the spring and just buy a spring.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 02:52 AM
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My friend has a turbo X-Runner and he cut the spring on his WG and its been like that for over a year and no problems i say do it. but if you have the money buy a new one, i got a new one.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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hhhhheheheh u know guys i knew that i had a reply to my question but i didn't see it cause i was busy with my WG

yup i've cut off about 60% of that spring and now the car runs about 6.5 PSI

by the way, i did cut my ride's springs hhhhheheheh talk about cheap


thanks alot everyone.
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 04:00 PM
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Ghetto rigged car: free
Ghetto rigged turbo: free
Having to post your shame after blowing an engine: priceless

There are some things money can't buy.
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wow this is a very stupid thread... i can't believe you cut your wastegate spring... i don't care whether your friend's brother's girlfriend did it to her turbo beetle with an okay result, wastegate springs are NOT expensive. i feel bad for your car.
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Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
wow this is a very stupid thread... i can't believe you cut your wastegate spring... i don't care whether your friend's brother's girlfriend did it to her turbo beetle with an okay result, wastegate springs are NOT expensive. i feel bad for your car.

comoooon
if it's working allright then what's the problem?!
you're too scared to try out anything

i feel sorry for your pocket, cause each time something goes wrong u go and buy new stuff while the guys at the workshop fix and use your previous parts...
who's stuped now? the thread?!
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oldredŽ
Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
wow this is a very stupid thread... i can't believe you cut your wastegate spring... i don't care whether your friend's brother's girlfriend did it to her turbo beetle with an okay result, wastegate springs are NOT expensive. i feel bad for your car.

comoooon
if it's working allright then what's the problem?!
you're too scared to try out anything

i feel sorry for your pocket, cause each time something goes wrong u go and buy new stuff while the guys at the workshop fix and use your previous parts...
who's stuped now? the thread?!
yeah, either i'm too scared to try out anything or i'm not dumb enough to cut a wastegate spring that was specifically engineered to be a certain length. good one. you feel sorry for my pocket? are you serious? you're the one who's going to be spending thousands on a new engine.

and btw, it's "stupid," not "stuped." oh, and it's "alright," not "allright."
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
Originally Posted by oldredŽ
Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
wow this is a very stupid thread... i can't believe you cut your wastegate spring... i don't care whether your friend's brother's girlfriend did it to her turbo beetle with an okay result, wastegate springs are NOT expensive. i feel bad for your car.

comoooon
if it's working allright then what's the problem?!
you're too scared to try out anything

i feel sorry for your pocket, cause each time something goes wrong u go and buy new stuff while the guys at the workshop fix and use your previous parts...
who's stuped now? the thread?!
yeah, either i'm too scared to try out anything or i'm not dumb enough to cut a wastegate spring that was specifically engineered to be a certain length. good one. you feel sorry for my pocket? are you serious? you're the one who's going to be spending thousands on a new engine.

and btw, it's "stupid," not "stuped." oh, and it's "alright," not "allright."
Umm, not to lessen the impact, but it's technically all right. Two words.
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Originally Posted by Nychold

Umm, not to lessen the impact, but it's technically all right. Two words.
umm, not to lessen the impact, but "alright" is an accepted English word found in the dictionary.... yes i looked it up when i saw your post just to make sure
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
Originally Posted by Nychold

Umm, not to lessen the impact, but it's technically all right. Two words.
umm, not to lessen the impact, but "alright" is an accepted English word found in the dictionary.... yes i looked it up when i saw your post just to make sure
Ehh? When the heck did that happen? Stupid English teachers...I remember having to write "all right" 100 times over for using "alright".
Old Jun 26, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Seriously, how much is a wastegete spring?
The question is, if you pieced the turbo together yourself, why didn't you just get a wastegate that had the right size spring in it to begin with?

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad it worked for you. But I would not reccomend it for an extended period, and suggets you get the proper size spring as soon as you can.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:09 AM
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wow dude... just wow. That's... wow...

<--Speechless.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
Originally Posted by oldredŽ
Originally Posted by jaxtcracer
wow this is a very stupid thread... i can't believe you cut your wastegate spring... i don't care whether your friend's brother's girlfriend did it to her turbo beetle with an okay result, wastegate springs are NOT expensive. i feel bad for your car.

comoooon
if it's working allright then what's the problem?!
you're too scared to try out anything

i feel sorry for your pocket, cause each time something goes wrong u go and buy new stuff while the guys at the workshop fix and use your previous parts...
who's stuped now? the thread?!
yeah, either i'm too scared to try out anything or i'm not dumb enough to cut a wastegate spring that was specifically engineered to be a certain length. good one. you feel sorry for my pocket? are you serious? you're the one who's going to be spending thousands on a new engine.

and btw, it's "stupid," not "stuped." oh, and it's "alright," not "all right."
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH SNAAAAAAAAAAP!!! LOL, that was the ownage of the year. LOL, but that's so stupid, that's like cutting your intercooler piping and welding them shorter to have less airflow, so stupid. Have fun riding a taxi.
Old Jun 27, 2007 | 04:41 AM
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Someone lock this thread. Original poster doesn't even have a tC and is just being a little asshat.



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