Does anybody know if the P-Tuning turbo-back exhaust bolt up to the descendant manifold?

 

why dont u call Ptuning

 

The question would be does it bolt up to the downpipe included in the descendent kit (as Ptuning's exhaust kit is the s-pipe back exahust system). If the descendent downpipe bolts up to the stock s-pipe, it will bolt to the Ptuning s-pipe as well.

 

Ecko,

Not sure if your disagreeing with me or not, but what I was saying is the ptuning "turbo back system" replaces the s pipe and back. It also made to meet the downpipe at the same location as the stock s-pipe would. So as long as the descendent kit bolts to the stock s-pipe, it will bolt to the ptuning turbo back system.

 

Sorry bud, but unless ptuning has changed their kit, that is incorrect. The ptuning s-pipe has a v band on the mid pipe side but a two bolt flange on the downpipe side.

I know because I have a ptuning turbo back that I installed myself.

 

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Des...l&ModelDesc=tC

Here's the link to their website, with a picture.

 

Did you take it out of the box?

Why would you need an adaptor to adapt a turbo back exhaust system (which inludes the s-pipe) to a factory or aftermarket s-pipe that you are replacing? I think that reference is an adatpor for bewteen the s-pipe to midpipe if the ptuning s-pipe wasn't used.

Finally, the reference to "removes two bolt" is for the connections of the pieces of pipe within their system.

Take a look at the picture, that looks like a two bolt at the end of the s-pipe to me.

http://www.ptuningscion.com/subdir/itemdetail.cfm?PartNo=PTPEXH1001&MakeCode=scion&ModelCode=tC&ModelYear=2005%2D2009%20All&ModelDesc=tC

 

Now that I'm out of work, I snapped a quick pic of my ptuning s-pipe connecting to my downpipe to clear up any confusion.

 

I'm guessing you didn't bother to open up the attachment with a picture of my ptuning s-pipe clearly bolting to the downpipe via 2 bolt flange.

Considering that never opened the box, I'm surprised that you've been arguing with me about something that you obviously have no first hand knowledge about.

Maybe you should look at the picture before you post your next rebuttle.

 

Oooook well that got heated.....


Basically Descendant manifold/DP will bolt up to stock exhaust, and P-Tuning turbo back exhaust will bolt up to stock exhaust as well due to the 2 bolt flange on that end.

Therefore, the P-Tuning exhaust should bolt up to the descendant manifold/dp no problem.

 

if you get the ptuning kit it comes with an adapter to hook up to the stock or aftermarket s-pipe.

T304SS Adapter for connecting to factory or other aftermarket s-pipe

 

^ EXACTLY!

I'm done here.

 

their also going to offer a 3" to 2.5" downpipe for THEIR kit if someone wants to run a different exhaust but that is not needed here.

 

The PTUNING Exhaust (S-Pipe) was made to bolt directly to the PTUNING Downpipe of their turbo, both being 3" and v-band as seen below.

Here is a pic of the PTUNING downpipe & PTUNING S-pipe...



Notice how both the downpipe and s-pipe have v-band connections, not the 2 bolt flanges.

That is the exact s-pipe that comes with the turbo-back exhaust which is the only concern I have about whether it will work or not.

This concern is solved because the turbo-back exhaust comes with a downpipe exhaust flange adapter-sleeve included for use with 2.5" donut gasket so the s-pipe can bolt directly to another downpipe, i.e. your Descendant downpipe.

Here is a pic of the exhaust minus the s-pipe, you can see the v-band connector and you also see the T304SS Adapter for connecting to factory or other aftermarket s-pipe.



The other concern if you were to go s-pipe back instead, DJ08tC clarified by saying it comes with the T304SS Adapter for connecting to factory or other aftermarket s-pipe....as seen above.

If you were to use the PTUNING s-pipe as well you remove the adapter from the pic above, use the v-band connector and use the downpipe adapter that comes with the exhaust and you should be set to go.

So PTUNING has you covered on all grounds, which is what I was saying all along, until RichTC wanted you to believe that there was only 1 option and only 1 way which is incorrect, it is suited for varying applications. The only way it wouldn't work is if for some reason your downpipe does not extend far enough down to the stock location, seems odd it would do that though.

Check out PTUNING's website for the details:

http://www.ptuningscion.com/subdir/i...l&ModelDesc=tC

...patiently awaiting RichTC to tell me that i'm wrong to reiterate that I have no first hand knowledge, since it's opened now right...

 

^^yea exactly

that is why they are coming out with that 3" to 2.5" adapter so people can run other exhausts.

they have too many options, lol

 

Ecko, so your post above is saying the turbo back exhaust system will work correct?

Since you went back and deleted your posts (wonder why?), here is the post where you said it wouldn't work which i copied from my email for you conveiennce:

"I didn't say I disagreed with you, I would just go about checking functionality differently.

The PTUNING s-pipe for their turbo-back exhaust has a v-band connection instead of the 2-bolt flange, that is not interchangeable with the stock s-pipe, the Descendant downpipe would need to have a v-band connection to use the PTUNING s-pipe. Thus, if the Descendant downpipe works with the stock s-pipe the PTUNING s-pipe would not work.

The OP would have to settle from the PTUNING s-pipe back exhaust instead of his initial plan of turbo-back if he wishes to stick with PTUNING."

Notice you said it would not work if the Descendent downpipe bolted to the stock s-pipe, which is factually incorrect. I'm not sure why subsequent posts referenced to the adaptor provided with the s-pipe back kit to bolt to a a stock or aftermarket s-pipe the poster was asking about the turbo-back kit, which replaces the s-pipe and as such will not needed.

Maybe PTuning sells a s-pipe that that is v-banded on both sides (I've looked for it on their website, but haven't seen it), but I know for sure they sell a S-Pipe that has a two bolt flange on the downpipe side (not an adaptor), which is the reason why I orginally disagreed with you (as shown in the link below).

http://www.ptuning.com/html/Item-Des...l&ModelDesc=tC

It was never about 1 way, it was about your providing misinformation. This kid could have just settled for s-pipe back instead of going for the turbo back (which I highly recommend) based on your post above.

 

Actually I didn't delete my posts, they were administratively removed, if I removed them it would say that I deleted my posts which is not true, and I was told to just post the information as it was on the site which is exactly what I did and now you wish to change your position. I never said that the exhaust would not work, quite the contrary in fact. You were representing the exhaust as only working one way which was completely false information.

I stated the obvious, if the exhaust does not have the correct adapters it would not work, that is not what you stated. After some searching and finding the information i.e. PICTURES, that proved what I was saying I listed those.

The PTUNING s-pipe for their turbo-back exhaust has a v-band connection instead of the 2-bolt flange, that is not interchangeable with the stock s-pipe, the Descendant downpipe would need to have a v-band connection to use the PTUNING s-pipe. Thus, if the Descendant downpipe works with the stock s-pipe the PTUNING s-pipe would not work.

^Statement is very much factual. To bolt directly up to the s-pipe a v-band connection is needed, as depicted above the PTUNING s-pipe has v-band connections on both ends, that is a fact, it is shown above, easily. PTUNING does not sell the s-pipe alone, it is made to bolt directly to the 3" PTUNING downpipe which has v-band connections.

The adapter is what makes all the difference in the world, with it the PTUNING s-pipe can indeed bolt to a 2-bolt flange downpipe and with the other adapter it can bolt to an aftermarket, non-PTUNING s-pipe. That's what I was stating all along. If i'm not mistaken the flex pipe is there such that you would not need the spring loaded bolts and gasket when connecting downpipe to s-pipe and to simply use the v-band connections as they are practically leak proof.

There are 2 types of PTUNING exhausts, both should be explained IMO, as evidently it is easy to have the adapters confused as there are options for connecting them to aftermarket exhausts, etc.

The pic above of the s-pipe is taken directly from PTUNING's website, it clearly shows v-band connections on both sides of the s-pipe. That's what I said initially, i've always known PTUNING to use v-band connections to insure a leak proof seal, it's a testament to their workmanship and commitment to quality as well as problem-free installation. When their exhaust and turbo system were announced that was a big deal as no other system had all v-band connections as PTUNING does.

As you have shown a type of s-pipe and so have I, so that shows there are 2 which may be where some of the confusion comes in, however, in the turbo-back exhaust PTUNING is selling, they still make reference to an adapter so that's why I am under the impression it did not come with the s-pipe you linked me to but rather the other that has v-band connections.

In either case buddy, the question at hand as been answered, with pictures to show the possible combination.

 

I don't think either of us want to argue. Cavalierkid, hope you got the info you were looking for. Sorry for sidetracking your thread.

 

RichTc, you're right, it does come with the s-pipe that you linked that has the 2 bolt flange welded on already. I'm not sure why it makes mention of the v-band clamps and an adapter when it isn't needed. I believe the v-band s-pipe is sold as part of turbo system here http://www.ptuningscion.com/subdir/i....&ModelDesc=tC only.

LOL way to take it way off track when it wasn't even necessary on either end.

 

hmmmmm well sorry to cause such calamity....

haha

But I guess descendant kit already comes with a 3" S-Pipe so i would only need the P-Tuning exhaust w/o the S-Pipe. Way to throw a wrench in the works huh! haha

So now it seems I don't have to worry at all, because the PTuning exhaust excluding the S-Pipe def. has the adapter that can change it from V-Band to 2 bolt flange if need be in order to connect to an existing S-Pipe (aftermarket or OEM). And I believe the Descendant Is all V-Band.


NOW LET'S ALL JUST HUG IT OUT!