PTUNING: 3" Turbo-Back & S-Back - IN STOCK!
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PTUNING: 3" Turbo-Back & S-Back - IN STOCK!
Per numerous PMs and email requests for special pre-order pricing, we have decided to offer the PTUNING 3" turbo-back and s-back at the following Special PRE-ORDER Pricing (Expires July 31, 200:
$75 OFF PTUNING 3" Turbo-Back Exhaust:
Please click link to redeem your $75 OFF:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/redeem_c...H1001EXP073108
Please click link to order turbo-back:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-r...ord=PTPEXH1001
$50 OFF PTUNING 3" S-Back Exhaust:
Please click link to redeem your $50 OFF:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/redeem_c...H1000EXP073108
Please click link to order s-back:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-r...ord=PTPEXH1000
* Exhausts will be available to ship within the next 3 weeks.
* Pre-orders will be shipped based on when it was received.
* Due to the increase in shipping cost, we can no longer offer free shipping. However, we are offering discounted shipping on the exhaust systems.
If you wish to order by phone, please call our Toll-Free Line: 1-877-788-6464
Thank you once again for your interest and support.
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
www.ptuning.com
$75 OFF PTUNING 3" Turbo-Back Exhaust:
Please click link to redeem your $75 OFF:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/redeem_c...H1001EXP073108
Please click link to order turbo-back:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-r...ord=PTPEXH1001
$50 OFF PTUNING 3" S-Back Exhaust:
Please click link to redeem your $50 OFF:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/redeem_c...H1000EXP073108
Please click link to order s-back:
http://www.ptuning.com/html/search-r...ord=PTPEXH1000
* Exhausts will be available to ship within the next 3 weeks.
* Pre-orders will be shipped based on when it was received.
* Due to the increase in shipping cost, we can no longer offer free shipping. However, we are offering discounted shipping on the exhaust systems.
If you wish to order by phone, please call our Toll-Free Line: 1-877-788-6464
Thank you once again for your interest and support.
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
www.ptuning.com
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Customers are definitely welcome to pick-up the exhaust at our facility here in Virginia (once they are in stock). However, pre-order is still required to get the special pricing.
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
www.ptuning.com
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
www.ptuning.com
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Question - why is it called a turbo-back when it only goes to the downpipe? All other manufactures that make a "turbo-back" exhaust literally mean from the turbo's exhaust housing and back.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
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Originally Posted by tC_2NeR
mmmm
lower the price
pleassssssssssse
lower the price
pleassssssssssse
With raw material and everything else going up, we were lucky to still be able to keep the exhausts at the same price.
Regards,
Mike @ PTUNING
www.ptuning.com
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Question - why is it called a turbo-back when it only goes to the downpipe? All other manufactures that make a "turbo-back" exhaust literally mean from the turbo's exhaust housing and back.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
also, don't see the need since most of the current DP's on the kits are catless, and usually 2.5 or 3 already
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Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Question - why is it called a turbo-back when it only goes to the downpipe? All other manufactures that make a "turbo-back" exhaust literally mean from the turbo's exhaust housing and back.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
also, don't see the need since most of the current DP's on the kits are catless, and usually 2.5 or 3 already
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Originally Posted by Scott8
my guess is the DP is part of the turbo, so turbo back makes sense
But we're going off topic.
Bump for a sweet looking exhaust.
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by Scott8
my guess is the DP is part of the turbo, so turbo back makes sense
But we're going off topic.
Bump for a sweet looking exhaust.
Sounds like you are one of the special few that build the kit piece by piece
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by B_Real45
Question - why is it called a turbo-back when it only goes to the downpipe? All other manufactures that make a "turbo-back" exhaust literally mean from the turbo's exhaust housing and back.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
Not bashing or anything, just wondering. It's definitely a beautiful product.
also, don't see the need since most of the current DP's on the kits are catless, and usually 2.5 or 3 already
Take for an example the mitsubishi evo 8&9. When you buy a turbo-back exhaust system for the evo, you're basically getting a cat-back with a downpipe that connects not directly to the turbine outlet flange, but instead to what's called an O2 housing. This O2 housing, as the name implies is a short casted section of exhaust that bolts to the turbine outlet flange. The word O2 housing is used because it houses the front O2 sensor.
So let's translate this to a Scion tc with a turbo kit. If you looked at the greddy turbo kit, for example, you will notice a short cast-iron exhaust housing section connected to the turbine outlet flange, this is what us turbo guys refer to as the O2 housing--Not downpipe. The s-pipe on the tc should have been called the downpipe in the first place-but since it's shaped like an s, someone decide to called it an s-pipe, but NA or Turbo, this pipe is referred to as the downpipe by the honda, nissan, mitubishi, subaru, and the rest of the car community.
To add to the confusion, toyota decides to make the rear cat part of the mid-section of the exhaust, so we really can't refer to our s-back exhaust as a cat-back, but instead called it an s-back. We would have rather called it downpipe back, because that's what it really is.
Since there are a variety of turbo kit configurations for the tc; some turbo are mounted high, requiring a longer o2 housing, some are mounted low, requiring a short O2 housing, the bottom line is as far as terminology is concern, our turbo-back is what most turbo community would refer to as a turbo-back, ie. downpipe+catback with either a cat or straight pipe in between.
When we release our turbo kit, it will include a 3" Downpipe/O2 connected directly to the turbine outlet flange. The O2 section, or what some are referring to as the downpipe is part of our downpipe, or should i say s-pipe. Confused?
If you use the word s-pipe when talking to anyone that doesn't own a scion, they're not going to have a clue what you're talking about, but if you used the word downpipe they will.
So maybe we should all take a step back and start fresh, using the word downpipe when referering to the s-pipe and use the word O2 housing when referring to the short section of exhaust bolted to the turbine outlet. This way the rest of the turbo world we'll understand what the heck we're talking about. Maybe we should have called it an O2 housing-back exhaust system which is exactly what you get when you buy a turbo-back exhaust for an evo.
If you're still confused, please let me know.
MrC
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No this is a great explanation. I too was wondering why we have an "s-pipe". So basically our DP that comes with most turbo kits is more like the DSM's O2 pipe. That's a good way of thinking of it.
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Originally Posted by B_Real45
No this is a great explanation. I too was wondering why we have an "s-pipe". So basically our DP that comes with most turbo kits is more like the DSM's O2 pipe. That's a good way of thinking of it.
Here's another one. If you bought a set of 89mm pistons, there's no diameter on the piston that is exactly 89mm either at the crown or at the bottom of the skirt. The clearance is built into the piston, but the 89mm refers to the final bore of the cylinder. Sometimes things don't always make sense but it does once someone explains it to you in lamens term.
Here's another big confusion for most people. When your bearing journal on your crank is scuffed and your machinist has to polished it down and what you end up with is a crank with a smaller journal. To make up the clearance for the smaller journal, you will need to get a thicker bearing. Now the question is do you buy an oversize bearing or an undersize bearing. Most people would say "Oversize". But in the engine building industry, no one really makes or uses an "oversize" bearing for an undersize crank. We'll does that mean you through away the crank? No. The word "undersize" in "undersize bearing" refers to the "undersize" crank diameter and not the thickness of the bearing being thinner or undersized. So now once you understand the context of how the word "undersize" is used regarding bearing, everything makes sense.
MrC
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lol.. actually I'm glad you brought this up.
I learned this when I tore down a 1.9L Saturn DOHC motor. The crank was repolished and the journals were taken down just slightly. I was told to purchase undersized bearings but instead I used the stock ones since I wanted more of a clearance since the motor would be seeing lots of boost and hp. The motor was originally built for me but I had to go to college, so no money left for a project. The new owner of the block had around 400whp with that engine on a smallish T04B.
I learned this when I tore down a 1.9L Saturn DOHC motor. The crank was repolished and the journals were taken down just slightly. I was told to purchase undersized bearings but instead I used the stock ones since I wanted more of a clearance since the motor would be seeing lots of boost and hp. The motor was originally built for me but I had to go to college, so no money left for a project. The new owner of the block had around 400whp with that engine on a smallish T04B.
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Originally Posted by Ptuningcom
Originally Posted by B_Real45
No this is a great explanation. I too was wondering why we have an "s-pipe". So basically our DP that comes with most turbo kits is more like the DSM's O2 pipe. That's a good way of thinking of it.
Here's another one. If you bought a set of 89mm pistons, there's no diameter on the piston that is exactly 89mm either at the crown or at the bottom of the skirt. The clearance is built into the piston, but the 89mm refers to the final bore of the cylinder. Sometimes things don't always make sense but it does once someone explains it to you in lamens term.
Here's another big confusion for most people. When your bearing journal on your crank is scuffed and your machinist has to polished it down and what you end up with is a crank with a smaller journal. To make up the clearance for the smaller journal, you will need to get a thicker bearing. Now the question is do you buy an oversize bearing or an undersize bearing. Most people would say "Oversize". But in the engine building industry, no one really makes or uses an "oversize" bearing for an undersize crank. We'll does that mean you through away the crank? No. The word "undersize" in "undersize bearing" refers to the "undersize" crank diameter and not the thickness of the bearing being thinner or undersized. So now once you understand the context of how the word "undersize" is used regarding bearing, everything makes sense.
MrC
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Originally Posted by brett561tc
MrC. why do people drive on parkway's, and park on driveways? and how come dog poop doesn't turn white anymore? also, what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?