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Old May 10, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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Default PTUNING - The MOST POWERFUL bolt-on turbo system available for the tC.

We wanted to show the results of our recent tune using just, off-the-shelf, bolt-on PTUNING parts.

Here is the mod list for this 08 tC:

100% stock motor
93 octane pump gas only
PTUNING SS-Turbo System with a GT3076R option.
PTUNING V1 3" Turbo-Back Exhaust System.
PTUNING RS Return-Style Fuel System w/Swirl-Pot Surge Tank.

The car was tuned for about 13.75 psi peak using the supplied AEM FIC.

Although this turbo set-up uses a GT30R turbo vs. the standard 57-trim turbo, we would have expected very similar results at the boost level that the car was tuned for.

The dyno charts below represent the actual Dyno Dynamics dyno numbers as well as Dynojet and Dynapack numbers respectively.



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Old May 10, 2012 | 06:11 PM
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Damn those are really nice numbers now how long is the motor going to hold that power is more the question

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DOPE!!! If I had the money...=/
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is it a GT or GTX? i'd be willing to contest this with my Alpha. i am almost done with my alpha i have a GTX3076 though i also run the Ptuning exhaust. no fuel return system. i'm not trying to take away from Ptuning love the work ya'll do i just think these two systems haven't been compared at the same psi. At least not that i can remember.
Old May 10, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
is it a GT or GTX? i'd be willing to contest this with my Alpha. i am almost done with my alpha i have a GTX3076 though i also run the Ptuning exhaust. no fuel return system. i'm not trying to take away from Ptuning love the work ya'll do i just think these two systems haven't been compared at the same psi. At least not that i can remember.
It's a GT Syldrin. The spec-ss uses the t3 footed flange. Would love to see the Alpha and the Spec-ss on the same Dyno with same boost levels.
Old May 10, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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i can tell you i will be setting my alpha to this boost level. i've wanted to compare these two kits since they came out. i've always thought they were comperable. i just didn't think the title was a fair statment since these kits haven't gone head to head. i would be willing to go at it since i'm pretty independant and i live in cali i'd also be using shaun @churches for tuning. They use a Dynapak so i'd have to shoot for the 416 mark.
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Originally Posted by johnnyb305mia
Damn those are really nice numbers now how long is the motor going to hold that power is more the question

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don't jinx me Bro.... i intend to have the car for a long time.
Old May 10, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyb305mia
Damn those are really nice numbers now how long is the motor going to hold that power is more the question
That's what I'd love to know..
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very nice numbers...what clutch was used?
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Not trying to bad mouth at all man but stock motor makin that power on pump gas that is ringlanding waiting to crack but I hope to see urs last a long time as well n surprised the stock motors holding that much on pump gas on e85 much easier u know plz keep us updated

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Originally Posted by Syldrin
i can tell you i will be setting my alpha to this boost level. i've wanted to compare these two kits since they came out. i've always thought they were comperable. i just didn't think the title was a fair statment since these kits haven't gone head to head. i would be willing to go at it since i'm pretty independant and i live in cali i'd also be using shaun @churches for tuning. They use a Dynapak so i'd have to shoot for the 416 mark.
Syldrin, first off, thank you for purchasing our PTUNING Exhaust System.

Now, not to start a dyno numbers war here, but if you're using Church's dyno, we're probably going to want to add 18-20% to our 362.3 instead of 15% to simulate Church's Dynapack numbers. This would give us 427.5- 434.8whp.

Look on here: www.s2ki.com and type in Church's dyno. There are bone stock S2000's making 235-245whp. The engines are only rated at 240 crank hp. On our dyno you're looking at 190-205whp for a bone stock S2000.

Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with getting your car tuned there and we have absolutely no beef with them whatsoever. However, you can really only use the numbers to compare to other cars tuned on that dyno. Again, not trying start a war here, but we need to deal with facts to start off with.

This is the same way our PTUNING xA runs 120's mph with ONLY 301whp vs a 357whp yaris running 108mph in the quarter mile. Both cars are running about the same weight and having similar aero design (Not boxy like the xB1).

Again, not starting a war, but there is a huge difference between dyno numbers from different shops. We're just here to educate people.

For example, it's difficult for any tuner to take the same car, running the same boost, and somehow make it achieve the same power after the tune on a lower reading dyno. This is nearly impossible when another tuner's dyno starts off with a 15-20% advantage right off the bat.

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Originally Posted by johnnyb305mia
Not trying to bad mouth at all man but stock motor makin that power on pump gas that is ringlanding waiting to crack but I hope to see urs last a long time as well n surprised the stock motors holding that much on pump gas on e85 much easier u know plz keep us updated

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You make a very good point and I can tell you that we're never ones to brag about how far we can push any stock motor before it blows up. We don't care about that record..... someone else can have it.

The purpose of the dyno sheets are to show how efficient our PTUNING Turbo Systems are at making power. It just so happens that his motor was stock. ;)

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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PTUNING
Syldrin, first off, thank you for purchasing our PTUNING Exhaust System.

Now, not to start a dyno numbers war here, but if you're using Church's dyno, we're probably going to want to add 18-20% to our 362.3 instead of 15% to simulate Church's Dynapack numbers. This would give us 427.5- 434.8whp.

Look on here: www.s2ki.com and type in Church's dyno. There are bone stock S2000's making 235-245whp. The engines are only rated at 240 crank hp. On our dyno you're looking at 190-205whp for a bone stock S2000.

Now there's absolutely nothing wrong with getting your car tuned there and we have absolutely no beef with them whatsoever. However, you can really only use the numbers to compare to other cars tuned on that dyno. Again, not trying start a war here, but we need to deal with facts to start off with.

This is the same way our PTUNING xA runs 120's mph with ONLY 301whp vs a 357whp yaris running 108mph in the quarter mile. Both cars are running about the same weight and having similar aero design (Not boxy like the xB1).

Again, not starting a war, but there is a huge difference between dyno numbers from different shops. We're just here to educate people.

For example, it's difficult for any tuner to take the same car, running the same boost, and somehow make it achieve the same power after the tune on a lower reading dyno. This is nearly impossible when another tuner's dyno starts off with a 15-20% advantage right off the bat.

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You aren't starting a war with me toan trust me. Like i said i just want to see the comparison. I have love for ptuning.

i'm going to churches for shaun not for their dyno.

i thought you said on your FB page that the 416 was a dynapak?
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Originally Posted by PTUNING
You make a very good point and I can tell you that we're never ones to brag about how far we can push any stock motor before it blows up. We don't care about that record..... someone else can have it.

The purpose of the dyno sheets are to show how efficient our PTUNING Turbo Systems are at making power. It just so happens that his motor was stock. ;)

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I completly understand I for one have a descendant kit because I got it for a steal but I love your kit as well and yes the tune on this car looks to be great from the dno sheets provided and def interested in to seeing his car progress and see how it goes its all in the tune and I'm sure many ppl can atest to that statement as well keep up the good work and what you guys are doing for the scion community

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Old May 10, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
You aren't starting a war with me toan trust me. Like i said i just want to see the comparison. I have love for ptuning.

i'm going to churches for shaun not for their dyno.

i thought you said on your FB page that the 416 was a dynapak?
That's good to hear, nothing better than a normal conversation. That particular dyno has been known to put out some pretty insane numbers that are even higher than other Dynapacks.

I agree with you too on not going their because of the dyno the shop is using. I'm sure you will get an excellent tune from them. After all, there is nothing wrong with their dyno reading high. It's like another spoken language, that's all. We just need to compare apples with apples and it's all good. Well, good luck with your tune.

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Originally Posted by johnnyb305mia
I completly understand I for one have a descendant kit because I got it for a steal but I love your kit as well and yes the tune on this car looks to be great from the dno sheets provided and def interested in to seeing his car progress and see how it goes its all in the tune and I'm sure many ppl can atest to that statement as well keep up the good work and what you guys are doing for the scion community

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Thank you.

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Those are some crazy numbers.
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Originally Posted by 07tctul
very nice numbers...what clutch was used?
Act heavy duty clutch.


Originally Posted by johnnyb305mia
I completly understand I for one have a descendant kit because I got it for a steal but I love your kit as well and yes the tune on this car looks to be great from the dno sheets provided and def interested in to seeing his car progress and see how it goes its all in the tune and I'm sure many ppl can atest to that statement as well keep up the good work and what you guys are doing for the scion community

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The car has been a slow work in progress for ~2 years now. I have some BBK in the garage that i will be installing in a few days for a track Event in Memphis later this month. After that i am not sure whats next... maybe a built block.

Here is a little info about the car. Since i created this thread i have added the fuel system, changed the clutch, added an EBC and just now turned up the boost.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=202849



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