CDogbert

I see a lot of positive things about the stage 0 kit, and I've seen some negative things, too... but all of them spread out at different times, so I don't know if problems resolved or things went from good-to-bad, etc.

Anyone with a stage 0 kit: Do you like it? What problems has it given you, and are they easily fixed? Was it worth the price to get it? Being the cheapest turbo kit I've seen, I'm not expecting fantastic numbers, but has anyone dyno'ed a stage 0 kit? Has anyone drag raced a stage 0 kit? What do its performance numbers look like?

WeDriveScions

Please search, as all the answers are out there already.

Retrodrive is going to be a really good source to talk about the stage 0 with a good amount of experience and fun with it... You can PM him for much info as well

I haven't heard too much negative about the kit itself... but there were little issues like the oil drain line that were easily fixed with a little adjustment...

Dollar for HP, it is really solid and is the best foundation to build on if you want to learn more and step it up to bigger numbers as well later.

You can also talk to rhythm, or even call up ZPI directly and they can answer many of your questions as well. If you check their website, you can also get the AIM logins, which will allow you to ask questions there too!

I'm just starting with the kit, so won't claim to be too much of a pro with it yet, but I'll be open as I go about my whole experience.

ZPIracing

The stage 0 is the best buy in forced induction options for the tC. You will maintain stock driveability with a lot more power when you drop the hammer..

The Stage 0 is also our biggest seller with well over a hundred kits delivered I am sure you can find a lot of first hand customers on here. Below I have included some dyno charts and 1/4 times from a stage 0 customer with the optional FMIC kit. The kit is not required but does add some bling to the front of the car.

With a full exhaust you will see close to 100whp gain. On a 100% stock exhaust you may see closer to 70. Then the numbers will vary based on the level exhaust that you have from there.

Thanks

-Kenny



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AndrewGene

Is that horsepower at the crank or at the wheels? And won't it be about 20-30 whp better on a dynojet?

DriveEuro

I would highly doubt that is at the crank.

ProshopXB

That is good ole WHP on that dyno and a mustang dyno will usually always dyno lower than a dyno jet dyno will.

Here is the timeslip that didnt show up on the post above.

AndrewGene

I was under the impression that an auto tc made 218 at the wheels with a stage 0...is there really a 32 whp difference between the 5spd and auto???

ERIC-TC

What injector size is used on these Stage 0 for the dynos runs?

DriveEuro

If so, it would be due to the difference in gearing in the auto tranny I believe.

OuterHeaven

Well I bet the auto tC did not have a exhaust... they only claim 230 whp with stock exhaust so that puts it right where it should be. You also need to look at the differences between the auto and 5 spd SC's. The trend is very similar, as in the more power you make the bigger the difference in power there is.

318_tC

hrmm peteyd put down 222whp with a exhaust on a auto stage 0 with fmic and i think injectors, i put down 227 on axleback exhaust with the dezod kit

thats what teh autos are looking like, october ull see 300whp out of a auto

ZPIracing

I am not sure if peteyd is a full exhaust or not?

The dyno chart above is on stock injectors.

Shane Allens car is at our shop and done he is a built engine, built tranny, built head. We are still breaking it in but I can tell you on 12psi it is a very fast car...

g0t_rice

^ im jealous

ERIC-TC

Are those stock injectors before or after the ecu makes fuel trim corrections? I mean the ecu over time can either add or take away up to 35% of the fuel to get the car to run basically at 14.7:1 A/F ratio.

underoath777

well even though i think this subjects been covered before i couldnt find it when i searched. i was thinking about the zpi stage 0, well actually im pretty sure im going to get it, and as i know it runs off the stock ecu, so i was wondering if using the TRD S/C reflash would help it to run better since that would have the ecu running an already FI setup, and it would be closer to the the type of mapping the stage 0 turbo would run off of, but im not entirely sure if that would even work or be beneficial sooo any input?

ERIC-TC

If you go with the reflash you also need to upgrade the injectors to 440cc which is what the TRD supercharger comes with. I think the MAF pipe that comes with the supercharger is bigger than stock which is close to 2.5". I have the 2.5" ZPI pipe and it's maxxed out before you get to red-line.

I wish we had A/F data on a Stae 0 with injectors and the TRD supercharger reflash.

underoath777

anybody else have input about the stage 0 and s/c reflash?