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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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still waiting for the collector pics. The collector looks small and from the one pic it does not seem to flow well. Again this is based off of ONE pic. Please prove me wrong.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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^^so you want him to dismantle his kit, just so you can be satisfied with a picture?
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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All good, I am happy to post up pics for ya and prove ya wrong, This last week was just bad to get those pics as Intense was prepping for HIN cali, I was gone to San Fran and we were all spending long nights working on cars.

Not sure how you think it does not flow well or is small from the side photo as it is the same diameter as the pipes, all well always a skeptic and no biggie. Pics will be posted the second I have them
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_Turtle
Originally Posted by Garage1217
Very cool, this post has nothing to do with turbotoyotas or phoenix turbo or any other companies, thanks! No more threadjacking please. Keep that info in those posts as I am not post whoreing on other companies threads to try to get this kits name out! Intensepower.com kits will sell themselves.

First off, i didn't mean to threadjacking you anyway... i am not good at doing threadjacking you called .... honestly, i thought went to different thread not here but i apologized to hurt your feeling not on purpose at all....

Thought the more info the better other members to get to know about all turbo kits....

P.S. THREADJACKING is not related to turbotoyoutas at all... was just a personal opinion not being really sensitive....and stock hood is made of steel..no worries about cooking steel hood... is not that hot
Well that made little sense but hey we cannot win them all! And no, feelings were not hurt. Just dissapointed companies and companies customers try to stick there stink in this post because the intensepower kit has caused so much good drama and people are trying to bottomfeed off all the talk of this kit. and yes it is obvious when certain people do it, not just an "oops wrong post" Gets annoying. Also I am not concerned about cooking steel as you say, I am concerned about killing the paint on the top of the hood with the manifold that close to it. It can also be optical and may not cause any issues... but visually we all looked at the pic and cringed how high up the runners were...
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 08:49 PM
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Hey Garage did you take it to the track yet.
Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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Hey Garage did you take it to the track yet
Damn...........Garage1217 you get no breaks. People should read before they type

I feel your pain.............

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cessblood
Hey Garage did you take it to the track yet.
Have not been home man I cannot wait to hit the track though, April 7th is the next drags at firebird, If all goes well I definitly plan to attend!
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
All good, I am happy to post up pics for ya and prove ya wrong, This last week was just bad to get those pics as Intense was prepping for HIN cali, I was gone to San Fran and we were all spending long nights working on cars.

Not sure how you think it does not flow well or is small from the side photo as it is the same diameter as the pipes, all well always a skeptic and no biggie. Pics will be posted the second I have them
sweet. Like i said this is off a few pictures that may be misleading. And small as it is not tall not the size of the actual pipes. And not flow well as the pipes seem to not collect at the collector for the maximum flow.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 02:46 AM
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It is not a tall collector, it is not possible to fit a tall collector in that space, however the collector was built off the same diameter material used for the runners. Pics will tell the story, it is a very nice built item!
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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Looks beautiful!! I'm watching very very carefully
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:39 AM
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First dyno numbers are in! OMG the guys rushed home from HIN cali and tossed my car on the rollers tonight, did not even know they made it home yet! I was planting a tree *LOL* Anyways my phone blows up and emails start flying, here are the starting numbers....

251.44whp
245.23 ft lbs

a/f radio was steady high 10's / 10.8-10.9 "rich and safe yes, but more tuning to come"

small amount of timing yanked just to be safe as these are the first numbers

Boost was 5.8 psi! Yes she made 251whp running very rich at 5.8 psi! It was verified via the greddy map sensor. My boost gauge was reading 5 psi so I know the numbers are correct.

This was on a bone stock exhaust!!!!! Man I knew she was pulling way hard for under 6 psi and that lancer last week had no idea what hit him haha. Man I am soooo excited to start rolling into the 8-10 psi range! This was the same dyno my car made a whopping 142whp bone stock over a year and a half ago. So I made around 110whp at this setting *LOL* sweetness. So about 19whp per psi. Man this made my night! Enjoy, I am sure more numbers will be flowing soon!

Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:38 AM
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dammnnn some nice numbers for 5 psi i wish i had turbo i need to boost up my whp cause i already got the torque but i cant seem to get the hp up congrats man post some more number with tuning and more psi lol
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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Looks like peak torque is just after 4,000 RPMs. Can you please post the boost curve as well? Also this compressor at 5.8 PSI is running in a pretty low band of efficiency on the compressor map. Are there any plans to raise the pressure ratio. It looks to be in the 66% band at a 1.39 Pressure Ratio. There's a lot more power to be had a lot more efficiently if the motor will take it. Also interested in the flow rate, pressure drop, and thermal transfer efficiency of that intercooler core. Thats pretty darn big if you are planning to stay at 5.8 PSI.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I bet 5.8 psi was a nice small number to not need serious tuning. Sounds like they were in a rush to get the car off to HIN so they went extremely modest .
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Hin is over guys, they went and I left my car at the shop as I could not make it out to HIN. When they came back they started to play We did go with 5.8 psi to make NOPI here in PHX as it was completed the day before the show and no time for serious tuning. Also if you guys read a few posts back, yes there is definite plans to raise the boost past 5.8 psi *LOL*, We did not build this setup to make 250 wheel hahaha. That was just a start point for testing as the setup was just bairly finished over a week ago. I am just VERY happy it is making this power at such uber low boost, safe a/f and on a stock exhaust. On stock internals we will be pushing around 8-10 psi depending and after the motor build.... past 18-20
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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8-10 psi on stock motor and making 250whp with 5.8psi. So you should have over 300whp with no problem... maybe about 325whp? Sounds good! I noticed these bigger turbos seem to be making bigger power on low boost and stock internals. With that said... how is it daily driving so far say compared to your SC since that's what you drove before? I know there's lag (and hate to bring lag up) but do you notice the lag?

I'm just wondering (for people looking to turbo) do you think starting off with a bigger turbo would be a smart move for someone looking to build their motor in the future? I know I was thinking it when I bought my kit but it just seemed like everyone was like on the big turbos for this car. Now you have a few people building with big turbos and before they build the motor the car is making great numbers. The big turbo are looking like the future for this motor.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by etsnet
8-10 psi on stock motor and making 250whp with 5.8psi. So you should have over 300whp with no problem... maybe about 325whp? Sounds good! I noticed these bigger turbos seem to be making bigger power on low boost and stock internals. With that said... how is it daily driving so far say compared to your SC since that's what you drove before? I know there's lag (and hate to bring lag up) but do you notice the lag?

I'm just wondering (for people looking to turbo) do you think starting off with a bigger turbo would be a smart move for someone looking to build their motor in the future? I know I was thinking it when I bought my kit but it just seemed like everyone was like on the big turbos for this car. Now you have a few people building with big turbos and before they build the motor the car is making great numbers. The big turbo are looking like the future for this motor.

Well in my opinion, choosing a larger turbo is about compromise and how much you want to compromise.... I chose a 3076R specifically as it is not to large to be super laggy and it is not so small as to sacrifice top end performance. It is simply perfect for those wanting to push the stock internals or have a motor build going. This turbo in all honesty does not feel "laggy" to me as some larger turbo to displacement setups have felt. At the same time on partial throttle she does not fly into boost at 30% either like some of the tiny turbos being used. Give her above 50% and boost is smooth and strong and you feel it begging to pull. Give her 100% and it kicks in fast. No large delay at all, hit the throttle, small delay and BANG it hits like a ton of bricks all the way to redline without a hint of letting up. A friend simply yelled out OH SHI* when I nailed the throttle in 2nd gear and slammed into 3rd. and he is an srt4 owner. He could not beleive the setup was only running 5.8 psi. Also the boost gauge swings HARD when your at or above 3200 rpm. No gradual increase, it just simply slams to the set boost. I can post up what I feel she will do at 8-10 psi from simple math but I would rather post the hard numbers than speculate. I know she will be up there well past 300, that is obvious, even with the stock exhaust.

Daily driving right cannot compare to the sc. The sc map kills so much timing that it simply did not feel "peppy" out of boost or on the low end of partial throttle. The sc was fun if you were banging off redline all the time. This setup feels like she wants to be let free... partial throttle is so much fun, you can feel it just begging to be hammered. Midrange power is simply there. The sc did not have hardly any midrange, only top end. When it comes to torque, good god this thing absolutley wipes it's rear on the sc. Torque is massive for such low boost. On command in first or second gear / part of 3rd in boost, she just shreds on the tires. With more boost to come, I am sure the tires will have a VERY short lifespan haha. The sc is decent for what it is and the cost and all and I was able to compare it to low end base turbo setups in which I felt it was actually quicker in some cases. Dyno runs also confirmed it made more power than a lot of low end base setups the way I modified it.. But compared to the intensepower setup, it is simply a joke.

Someone also mentioned in PM that I am running 18's with a wilwood 13" brake setup, not sure how much that would change dyno numbers but I bet on a stock tc the numbers would definitly be a tad higher on this low boost setting.
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick06tC
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Happy to sign ya up as soon as we get the numbers and dates all set! Intense wants to get this right the first time, not have a mess!
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Garage1217
The sc is decent for what it is and the cost and all and I was able to compare it to low end base turbo setups in which I felt it was actually quicker in some cases. Dyno runs also confirmed it made more power than a lot of low end base setups the way I modified it.. But compared to the intensepower setup, it is simply a joke.

I guess you must have missed the thread I made.....

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