after a few years of the tc being in production it seems that the aftermarket has pretty much given up on the tc except for 3 companies. turbo toyotas, dezod, and p-tunning. you guys pretty much have the scion market cornered, and have done great things for those of us wishing to make our little rice rockets fly to mars. however. with the growing number of built motor tc's, there are some of us who would now like the option of taking it to the next level. here are some ideas that i would really like to see put into production.


1. intake manifold.

ther are a few people out there that have said that they would soon have this ready for production. but as fitting with the good old sl curse, they still aren't available.


2. return style fuel setup.

i would like to have a nice billet return style fuelrail, with the ability to run larger injectors, and have the fpr, and all an style lines and fittings in one package.


3. final drive gear.

probably the most important one. i keep seeing all these aftermarket 4.111 final drives for cars like evo's, and rsx's. but none for the tc. the top of 4th gear in the tc is 112mph. this is unaceptable for people who's tc's have 11 second power, but only 12 second gearing. anyone whos ever driven a srt 4 can tell you that 4th gear doesnt top out until about 125mph. not to mention driving down the highway doing 70mph at almos 4k rpm. also mabey some of those auto-x guys would like different final drive gear to shorten the gearing some and have more down low speed, buy giving up some top end.


4. billet motor mounts.

todd. i know your working on this one. dont keep us waiting too long.


5. cable throtle body convesion kits.

im really not liking the problems i keep running into with dbw. when im crusing along at normal speeds, my foot barley needs to be on the throtle. for some reason the dbw keeps cutting the throttle all together when this happens. then when i push my foot down some, it kicks back in. very anoying.



6. forged crank / stroker crank.

a nice light weight forged crank with the option of knife edging would be nice. also i think its about time for a stroker kit option. this would also be another good reason for the final drive gear, since rasing the rev limiter on with a longer stroke would not be a good idea.



7. upgraded oil pump.

for those of us that want to rasie our rev limiter, i think that this wouldnt be a bad thing to have.




these are some of the products i would like to see come to life some time soon. if anyone else can think of something they would like to see for the tc, please feel free to add on.

 

I would LOVE a nice ___ intake manifold and return fuel system along with billet motor mounts. Not sure about the others. Don't know much about those. What about Equal Length Manifolds? Or 3" downpipe and s-pipe (Dezod)? GOOD IDEA BRETT for this thread. I hope this becomes an useable thread. So, Dezod and TurboToyotas! Chime in!!!

 

very good suggestions. I do agree with you.

 

I would like to see some final drive gears be put out. It would be nice to keep up with the highway traffic and not have to rev the ____ out of it so as not get passed by Grandma.

 

for those that dont understand what a final drive gear does heres some info. this is a copy and paste of an add for an evo final drive gear.



This is a taller, 4.111 final gear set that includes the center ring gear and output shaft for the 1996 - 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution models 4 - 9.

This kit includes:
1. Center ring gear
2. Output shaft

These speeds are calculated using 225/45/17 wheels and tires, and are in mph. Each speed per gear is calculated until reaching 7000rpm.

Stock gear speeds are in parenthesis.

1st gear: 43.5mph (41.2)
2nd gear: 64.8mph (58.8)
3rd gear: 89.8mph (81.5)
4th gear: 122.5mph (111.2)
5th gear: 166.0mph (150.7)

Taller gears provide a higher top speed and are ideal for higher horsepower vehicles.




as you can see by adding a different final drive gear, you can increase the top speed of each gear without raising the rev limiter. since the stock evo final drive is 4.529:1, and the tc is 4.235:1. i figure we would need something like a 3.90 gear.

 

About time someone made this thread.

 

yeah. theres sooooooo many different turbo kits to choose from now its ridiculos. and it seems like theres a new version coming out every week. now that we have that aspect of the tc covered, lets focus on other things that should be done to get our cars where we want them.

 

Thanks Brett! You da man! You went back to your old SL ID huh? Anyway, thanks for the tip. I have a hard time understanding it tho. It is like we can have more power per gear to get higher WHP?

 

it doesnt change the power that the engine produces at all. it makes it so that it takes less rotations of the crank shaft to turn the wheels one full revolution.

 

x1,000 on the final drive gear and the intake mani. Good job on gettin this out there.

 

I'm down for a IM and a DBW --> DBC conv kit!. I'd be all over those in a heartbeat if they were available.

 

Exactly!

I know built motor tC's are becoming more and more popular now a days, and this is a must. I think suppliers are just weary of mass distributing these products due to the low demand (in their eyes)

 

i would shell out a g for one in a heartbeat.

 

Don't get me wrong, I would definitely do the same if I was continuing on with my build, but family problems arose. I think so many companies are all talk about making this and that, I want to see a result!

 

if we could get a dbw conversion it would open the door for the allmotor guys also,as well as tuning FI setups.

 

What is DBW exactly? I am trying to learn as much as possible because... well... you'll see. Hehe...

 

The only things on that list I can't get my hands on are the Motor mounts, final drive gear, and the upgraded oil pump.

The DBW - DBC conversion doesn't really bother me.

The Intake manifold, one of my club members is working on, the fuel return system you can buy the components yourself (Aeromotive stuff) and make yourself, and the crank can be knife edged at a machine shop.

But I get what you are saying. You would like to actually see a product packaged put together. You might want to talk to Jotech Motorsports about getting most of that stuff, as the Quote-UN-Quote big "3" are parts distributors. They are not tunning shops, besides P-tuning that is. The other two are middle men. Someone like big dog Jotech, or Leslie Durst would be the people to go to when we get that detailed into our build.

 

I am just waiting for Scion-parts (ie Horizon) to decide wether or not they are going to market their IM. If they do, I am all about helping them sell there product..otherwise I have one ready to bring to the market.

90% done with all the mockup....my personal project to complete this weekend
Otherwise its just machine time for the rails.


Already available for those who really want it....you can have anything made. Its just going to cost you. No such thing as an OBX final drive...not enough of a market.

Mounts are done...just waiting on pins...I am always waiting on something

But its just going to be the front....the rest can be done but they are going to be cost prohibitive to mass produce.

Easy to do the conversion.....you just have allot of wiring to do to make this work. You have to ditch the factory ECU to do it or be the guy that figures out how to get the ecu not too look for it.

This is the hardest task to accomplish on this list. The parts are readily available and are cheap (factory parts) its the other part of the equation that make it hard. And this is not really an option for the "masses".

Billet cranks are available now....they are $3000.00 if you really think you need one

I have a hard time trying to get guys to build there motor with there stock crank (which is plenty good enough) but what makes you think you need a billet one???

The stroker kits are coming....but honestly other than saying you have more displacement who really needs it....we haven't even reached the limits of the factory motor as it is........The 2AZ has allot more potential(when built) than the grandaddy of all import motors the K series. So why stroke it??? I can see destoking it just to rev the ____ out of it though

Already in the works.......just have to do allot of testing


Thanks Travis......I haven't been a middle man for a while now....and if you actually paid any attention to the things I have been doing you would have figured this out.

Sorry this is the first time you have actually struck a "nerve" with me......it was bound to happen

all in good fun

Regards-

Todd

 

I would LOVVVVVVEEEE to see some Traction Bars made like all the honda's and srt4 guys. That would be sweeeeeet.

 

Damn, Todd sure knows his stuff. I still stand by my man Paul! LOL