TRD intercooler
11-03-2005, 03:39 PM
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TRD intercooler
I was surprised to see that there don't seem to be any posts about this here. I was at SEMA yesterday, Scion had this car on display. The sign said that it is a water to air intercooler. The IC is shown on the sixth picture down.
http://www.customtacos.com/ubbthread...6&fpart=2&vc=1
http://www.customtacos.com/ubbthread...6&fpart=2&vc=1
11-03-2005, 04:27 PM
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If you want the air to air look of a visible FMIC this should do it for you. This guy doesn't show pictures of it, but the radiator to cool the intercooler water is mounted at the front, it pretty much looks like an FMIC. There was a supercharged TRD Tundra X-runner at SEMA with a water to air intercooler, it has the same set up with the intercooler radiator at the visble at the front.
http://www.customtacos.com/ubbthread...6&fpart=1&vc=1
The Scion intercooler was smaller of course, but it filled the radiator opening nicely, and had "TRD" in red intead of black. Come to think of it, it looked exactly like the pictures posted in the other TRD IC thread where it was billed as an FMIC.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...90091&start=25
http://www.customtacos.com/ubbthread...6&fpart=1&vc=1
The Scion intercooler was smaller of course, but it filled the radiator opening nicely, and had "TRD" in red intead of black. Come to think of it, it looked exactly like the pictures posted in the other TRD IC thread where it was billed as an FMIC.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...90091&start=25
11-03-2005, 06:21 PM
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WOW! That thing is serious. As much as I love the bling factor of a FMIC. Water-to-air intercoolers are far more efficient thatn air-to-air intercoolers (FMIC). With air-to-air (FMIC) the charge temp can onlt get as kow as the ambient air outside. For example, if it is 90 degrees outside, the lowest temp the charge can get to is 90 degrees. With water-to-air, the temps can get below the outside ambient air, because water cools more effieciently. If it is 90 degrees outside, it is possible for the charge temps to be as low as say... 40-50 degress. This means it is possible to have your car running like it does in the Winter, in the middle of August.
11-03-2005, 06:28 PM
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So wait a second... they have a TMIC, but for water and then still have a FMIC for the TMIC water? WTF? Why not just have one FMIC and be done with it?
Though I have to say, if you have the TMIC... sleeper.
Though I have to say, if you have the TMIC... sleeper.
11-03-2005, 06:42 PM
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The way these water to air intercoolers work is the water running throught the intercooler (what you are refering to as TMIC) takes the heat out of the air. The water heats up, having absorbed the heat from the air. You then need to have a radiator at the front of the car to get the heat out of the water. Otherwise the water would heat up to the point where it was not cooling the intake charge anymore. The piece that you are refering to as a FMIC is just a radiator for the intercooler water. It is not actually an intercooler.
11-03-2005, 06:44 PM
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I know it's not really an intercooler... but my point is that they're installing and intercooler up top, but still running lines and mounting another device to the front? Why not just simplify it and make a FMIC?
11-03-2005, 06:59 PM
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Well, what do think is easier to get down to the front? Two small heater hoses or two big pipes for the air? Take a close look at a supercharged car and tell me where there is space for two air pipes to get down to the front of the car past the SC and battery. The guy from ZPI said he was having problems doing this as well. It may be more complicated, but I don't see how the plumbing would work otherwise.
11-03-2005, 07:27 PM
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water/air cooler is a lot better for these motors anyway...It gets soo hot under the hood of these cars, the reason Toyota will probly go with the top mounted water/air cooler to help keep the intercooler from getting heat soaked resulting in loss of performance.
11-03-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scion-ce
WOW! That thing is serious. As much as I love the bling factor of a FMIC. Water-to-air intercoolers are far more efficient thatn air-to-air intercoolers (FMIC). With air-to-air (FMIC) the charge temp can onlt get as kow as the ambient air outside. For example, if it is 90 degrees outside, the lowest temp the charge can get to is 90 degrees. With water-to-air, the temps can get below the outside ambient air, because water cools more effieciently. If it is 90 degrees outside, it is possible for the charge temps to be as low as say... 40-50 degress. This means it is possible to have your car running like it does in the Winter, in the middle of August.
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