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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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waiting on dyno.
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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looks like the srt4 intercooler
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:08 AM
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do u go to uci? I think i have seen ur car drive by
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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no i live in sacramento area

its not an srt-4 intercooler, might be similar i guess but my guy has them made for him

we actually decided to take the front grill out so its not much sleeper anymore. Dyno will be done monday evening and pictures should be up by tuesday evening

ill keep you posted
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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cant wait til tuesday....
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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i know how do you think i feel, monday is gonna be the worst day of work ever

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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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we're like many of the sc'd owners on here--looking forward to the results. Hopefully it helps pull together all your add-ons to get the numbers you've been working so hard towards.
It's great that owners are trying/creating these mods on their own--now why can't the manufacturer take the lead on this and get us these mods along with the warranty that was a main reason we bought the sc in the 1st place???
Good luck Monday.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 03:14 AM
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Ok so my car has been there since January 7th so I don't think you've waited that long for your car to get done.
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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thanks. during this whole process i wanna bring something up i need to gripe about something.

A lot of people have developed a misconception for what an intercooler actually does. now im no genius myself, but i know a little bit about a little bit and by todays standards in this industry that counts for something. Yes an intercooler will give you more horsepower, but only if it can cool the temperature of the compressed air colder than the ambient temperature outside. For example if your driving down a desert freeway in the middle of summer, your probably not gonna get much gains from the intercooler becasue the can only get as cold as the temperature outside will allow it. If your cruising on a cold brisk evening your gonna rock down the road. Now we get the the misconceived part, horsepower is not the only reason to run an intercooler. An intercooler will also allow you to safely and more reliably run more boost by helping the motor to not detonate. In theory 12psi on an intercooled supercharger would be about the same as running 9psi on a non intercooled supercharger. so while i might see some gains from adding the intercooler, my main focus for this project was being able to run more boost in the future. Now i also do not recommend running more than 9psi without a decent fuel tune, with at least an SAFC. my goal for my car was 250whp, will i get that with an intercooler and SAFC...no. however the intercooler and SAFC will allow me to run 12psi safely on the stock internals without risk of detonation or other possible problems that might come about, thus helping me reach my goal. why 250? i think its a very respectable number especially for a 4 cylinder thats supercharged. my other reason is a lot of people said 250whp on a supercharger in a tc would not be possible and just to get a turbo kit instead, well i have my reasons for getting the super, and surprise Warranty was not one of them, I wanna prove all those people wrong.

OK why did i bring this up you ask? When i post results on Monday i dont want people bashing or dissapointed that it only yeilded 10 or 15hp. an intercooler is a necesary step for the continued building of my car and will allow me to safely achieve my goals.

Now the wait continues, DAMMITT i want my car back, hahaha
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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cant wait to see the dyno, and more pics if thats possible
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:07 AM
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OutCrnrU, have you ran your set up at a track, to compare stock vs the mods you already have in place? Most of the times i've seen posted on the web were with the various turbos, i'd be interested to see what the pulley swap ( and other mods available for the sc ) do on the road compared to the 14.8-15.1 +/- the "stock" sc seems to do. I would guess that this car should be readily able to pull maybe lo-mid 13's with the hp numbers you are working on. Just wondering how it ends up when all is said & done.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:06 PM
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well with the stock sc setup i ran 14.6 @ 96mph

when i put the pulley on I had serious traction issues and ended up running a 14.8@ 97mph. not sure how that happened but no traction till 3rd gear sucks. hope that helps

4 hours and counting, ill have numbers up soon
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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Your totally right about the intercooler.
Colder air can compress more than warm air which means more air in the cylinder, you would also add more fuel which would make a bigger explosion which = more power.
Are you gonna have some like huge fans in front of the car? cuz the dyno would be pointless without em since ur not moving. I'm sure you would anyways.
Oh, can you possible get a video of it? or atleast some pics?
Thnx
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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waiting and watching.
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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OutCrnrU
thanks for the feedback, it's appreciated. I'd think that tirespin is bound to be a problem as these little cars hit 200+ hp; i'm not sure how strong the transaxle is ( compared to drivetrain in a rear driver ) but some wheel spin can at times be a good thing--if nothing else to help prevent breakage. Your system could launch pretty damn quick off the line if you got it to bite (especially with that low 1st ); but I wonder how far we can push our motors before hitting drivetrain limits. I'll admit I'm not too knowledgeable on front drivers ( i'm an old school guy ); hopefully Toyota put in something that can handle at least what we are putting thru it without that becoming an issue for all of us.
Looking forward to your tests....
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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There is a company that broke the front axle on drag radials. I forget how much power they were running.
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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yeah I know that was Dezod but dunno how much power they were pushing. I know it was turbocharged tho.
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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I remember when I sold the 1st gen Eclipses and the GSX came in: that awd really enabled some serious launches ( nothing more then a scrub of the tires, then away she shot ). Seemed like a great idea, but do that too many times and in for repair you go. Same could be said for the VR-4, the launch was great, but at some point something needs to give.
Of course using the numbers above--adding hp just to lose time in the 1/4 isn't what was planned on. I wonder if lower rpm launches to get it to hook up would be the trick; and let the torque this thing has do the brunt of the work off the line??
Last hotrod I ran hard ( piloting friend's v8 Pinto ) you really had to baby it at the start, roll into the throttle, then when you had momentum hammer it. Seems like a lot of lost time, but it still happened so fast you didn't really lose anything ( I left guys in the dust doing that ).
Just seems so different doing that on a front driver though.... at least these don't seem to have the torque steer problems so prominent on earlier front drivers with power...
Old Feb 22, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Any new updates? I am interested in the same type of build. I may be sending you a pm sometime.



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