Turbo Kit 1/4 Mile Times *Out of the Box*
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Maybe Darren could implement something like he had before.. be able to add your 1320 time, and your dyno time.. then possibly have it set so you can do a search based on times/#'s.. dunno.. maybe someone can take that idea and run with it.
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Just to clarify, Joe's car is about 1K miles from here. It has no additional motor or performance turbo related mods done to it. The car when it was dyno'd and tracked was done on a off the shelf tC turbo system with our exhaust and an ACT clutch. Nothing more. The car has full weight (if not more) and is a DD car.
The 8.5 PSI dyno @ 244whp & 255wtq was under the exact above statements. We also had the dump recirculated and a cat on the downpipe.
Our 11 PSI runo @ 271whp & 292wtq was no different. Just more fuel added on the same conservative tune. The cat was removed from the DP, but the WG was still recirculated.
Our next dyno session will be 8.5, 11 PSI & 14 PSI with an open dump then the S2 install and testing will begin for Joe. We have a customer on the West Coast who is testing our S2 Beta Kit. It is more or less a 1 off to his specs.
Let us know if your interested. We have a very nice wholesale program rolled out for all of our kits.
The 8.5 PSI dyno @ 244whp & 255wtq was under the exact above statements. We also had the dump recirculated and a cat on the downpipe.
Our 11 PSI runo @ 271whp & 292wtq was no different. Just more fuel added on the same conservative tune. The cat was removed from the DP, but the WG was still recirculated.
Our next dyno session will be 8.5, 11 PSI & 14 PSI with an open dump then the S2 install and testing will begin for Joe. We have a customer on the West Coast who is testing our S2 Beta Kit. It is more or less a 1 off to his specs.
Originally Posted by turbocharger
We sell all the kits with the exception of the Dezod kit and i would have to say they will all equally compare in different areas.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
You haven't seen customers from ZPI down the 1/4 mile yet....Would that be ZPI's fault?
Now you might haven't seen them down the 1/4 mile, but you have seen the dyno #'s from a cutomers car. Stage 1 290whp 333ftbs comes to mind from one customers car. Now you mean to tell me that dyno #'s aren't enough to justify saying a Stage 1 kit is the fastest down the 1320?
Now you might haven't seen them down the 1/4 mile, but you have seen the dyno #'s from a cutomers car. Stage 1 290whp 333ftbs comes to mind from one customers car. Now you mean to tell me that dyno #'s aren't enough to justify saying a Stage 1 kit is the fastest down the 1320?
Well, because it isnt a car made for the 1/4 mile.. It is made to get on the highway and outrun most anything.
Just letting you know... I am not saying they wont be better times, they no doubt could be, just letting you know that the statement you made was absolutely incorrect.
True, a driver could make the car run bad times. But equal drivers and tires More HP and TQ can't loose to the weaker car. Not that you should race on the street, but should you, the weaker car would so get Hored!
You are not paying attention are you?The "Round About" answer is obvious....If you want to be nieve about it, be my guest. Don't feel like you have to prove anything to me..
And I am not trying to prove anything to you at all, just like to take the little things you miss to say and prove that you should have said them. Just my way of getting under your skin, you should know by now man.. come on...
If you say that a 100hp car will lose to an 800 hp car I am gonna say that it depends if the 800 hp car has wheels on it or not, cause if it doesnt then the one with 100hp with win.
Come on dude, you have to know by now I am just playing on your emotions. Its just too much fun.
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Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
You haven't seen customers from ZPI down the 1/4 mile yet....Would that be ZPI's fault?
Now you might haven't seen them down the 1/4 mile, but you have seen the dyno #'s from a cutomers car. Stage 1 290whp 333ftbs comes to mind from one customers car. Now you mean to tell me that dyno #'s aren't enough to justify saying a Stage 1 kit is the fastest down the 1320?
Now you might haven't seen them down the 1/4 mile, but you have seen the dyno #'s from a cutomers car. Stage 1 290whp 333ftbs comes to mind from one customers car. Now you mean to tell me that dyno #'s aren't enough to justify saying a Stage 1 kit is the fastest down the 1320?
Well, because it isnt a car made for the 1/4 mile.. It is made to get on the highway and outrun most anything.
Just letting you know... I am not saying they wont be better times, they no doubt could be, just letting you know that the statement you made was absolutely incorrect.
True, a driver could make the car run bad times. But equal drivers and tires More HP and TQ can't loose to the weaker car. Not that you should race on the street, but should you, the weaker car would so get Hored!
You are not paying attention are you?The "Round About" answer is obvious....If you want to be nieve about it, be my guest. Don't feel like you have to prove anything to me..
And I am not trying to prove anything to you at all, just like to take the little things you miss to say and prove that you should have said them. Just my way of getting under your skin, you should know by now man.. come on...
If you say that a 100hp car will lose to an 800 hp car I am gonna say that it depends if the 800 hp car has wheels on it or not, cause if it doesnt then the one with 100hp with win.
Come on dude, you have to know by now I am just playing on your emotions. Its just too much fun.
Why I OTTA!!!
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Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
Maybe a database here on ScionLife for the number comparisons of each turbo kit, dyno #'s, 1/4mile times, etc. Or just a thread that is edited to reflect new times, etc.
Yeah, and even though it would be on an individual basis, you could see what range you would fall into 1/4 time wise if you choose that respected kit by looking at everyones time with that kit, and averaging the #'s.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
Maybe a database here on ScionLife for the number comparisons of each turbo kit, dyno #'s, 1/4mile times, etc. Or just a thread that is edited to reflect new times, etc.
Yeah, and even though it would be on an individual basis, you could see what range you would fall into 1/4 time wise if you choose that respected kit by looking at everyones time with that kit, and averaging the #'s.
Nope.. You are wrong.
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I agree BTW...
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Originally Posted by HighlanderMac
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Stu_Gotti
Maybe a database here on ScionLife for the number comparisons of each turbo kit, dyno #'s, 1/4mile times, etc. Or just a thread that is edited to reflect new times, etc.
Yeah, and even though it would be on an individual basis, you could see what range you would fall into 1/4 time wise if you choose that respected kit by looking at everyones time with that kit, and averaging the #'s.
Nope.. You are wrong.
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I agree BTW...
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by paul_dezod
We have a customer on the West Coast who is testing our S2 Beta Kit. It is more or less a 1 off to his specs.
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Oh word nice, so the S2 should be unveiling pretty soon then I take it?
So all eyes are now in CA
So all eyes are now in CA
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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Oh word nice, so the S2 should be unveiling pretty soon then I take it?
So all eyes are now in CA
So all eyes are now in CA
I thought my setup was going to be a beast....Kinda nervous now, I'm watching my back
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Oh word nice, so the S2 should be unveiling pretty soon then I take it?
So all eyes are now in CA
So all eyes are now in CA
I thought my setup was going to be a beast....Kinda nervous now, I'm watching my back
Our S2 system as we go now, will have a fair amount of customization the end user can choose from.
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Oh very nice!
LOL dont worry, I'm not THAT nervous about this S2. I'll challenge the driver to see what he's got.
I'm sure other ppl will want a crack at him as well... i.e. ZPI, GReddy, Turbonetics, etc lol
So all eyes are now on Dezod, your up next!
LOL dont worry, I'm not THAT nervous about this S2. I'll challenge the driver to see what he's got.
I'm sure other ppl will want a crack at him as well... i.e. ZPI, GReddy, Turbonetics, etc lol
So all eyes are now on Dezod, your up next!
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
why waste your money going N/A then getting a turbo?? pointless in my eyes
but they were the only ones out (kinda). Now I have ZPI, Greddy, turbonetics, SP, Dezod, and I think there's another FL company I'm missing. In the mean time I enjoyed my N/A parts and well worth driving around with n/a parts then stock.
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Originally Posted by zer0
Originally Posted by jam0321
people have been screaming this all along!
you can't just advertise that your kit does 12 second passes without:
1) listing all the mods done to the car
2) explaining that these times are not typical of the "out of the box" kit.
And you definitely can't claim one is faster than the other without having done a fair comparison.
We are all still waiting for the major companies to get together and do an actual shoot out and lay this debate to rest.
you can't just advertise that your kit does 12 second passes without:
1) listing all the mods done to the car
2) explaining that these times are not typical of the "out of the box" kit.
And you definitely can't claim one is faster than the other without having done a fair comparison.
We are all still waiting for the major companies to get together and do an actual shoot out and lay this debate to rest.
For me, out of the box, I was missing a slew of parts and even after getting it running I made 200whp which is hardly the 13 sec mark.