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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:14 AM
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i have a decsion to make a choice between the turbonetics kit or the ZPI kit i dont know which is better or has more potential if anyone has theses kits plz let me know how you like it or which is best for the tc i have no internals but will when i decide on the kit i like your info will be great thank you.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:23 AM
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It all depends... Unichip or E=Manage, Price, Expandability, they all are factors... #1 suggestion... read, search, read some more, search some more.... there's pics, dynos, opinions, time slips, and more all a click away... and BTW 1,000,000 different opinions.... so take everything with a grain of salt.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:35 AM
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Turbonetics!!! so many satisfied customers
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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thanks WeDriveScions for your input ill try to find all that info before i make my choice and thanks xtcfast turbonetics-1 zpi-0
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:52 AM
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^ too simple.... Only Unichip tuner shops can tune it, not as researched and played with in terms of different expandability options like the ZPI (Water to AIR IC, etc...), and priced higher... but, there are lots of pros to that style setup as well in terms of plug and play, big company and such...

(Thus the need to read up!) LoL...

Despite some ZPI customer's recent negative thread content, I'd say they also have a lot of satisfied customers as well (ScionDad, RetroDrive, and other respected and knowledgable SL users)

It's not a simple decision... and I repeat... full of opinions... research will get you the best info and will also show you any past threads about experiences both positive and negative to all the options.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by WeDriveScions
It all depends... Unichip or E=Manage, Price, Expandability, they all are factors... #1 suggestion... read, search, read some more, search some more.... there's pics, dynos, opinions, time slips, and more all a click away... and BTW 1,000,000 different opinions.... so take everything with a grain of salt.
Definitely agree here...also might wanna consider Dezod as well. Annoy the hell out of MIAPLAYA (Turbonetics) or Joe and Paul (Dezod) and nag them with questions/concerns. Everyone is gonna throw in their opinions on what they think the best turbo kit is, but it all boils down to what YOU'RE looking for, so take that into consideration. Good luck man!
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Take a look into dezod.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Take a look into dezod.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Turbonetics has more potential then the ZPI stage 1... I cant justify spending $4200 for a EVO GT 16g, when for $4500 you can get a Ball Bearing 50trim with great HP potential.
4400.00 deliverd here. I have the kit and have been loving it. Can be difficult to find a tuner but the stock tune runs great at 9psi 10.4 - 11.4 afr.

Happy birthday zer0!!
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Schuller
Originally Posted by zer0
Turbonetics has more potential then the ZPI stage 1... I cant justify spending $4200 for a EVO GT 16g, when for $4500 you can get a Ball Bearing 50trim with great HP potential.
4400.00 deliverd here. I have the kit and have been loving it. Can be difficult to find a tuner but the stock tune runs great at 9psi 10.4 - 11.4 afr.

Happy birthday zer0!!
Thanks! $4400 even better!
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Sound performance

7psi 280whp nuf said.
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Originally Posted by deathbyc4
Sound performance

7psi 280whp nuf said.
For only $39xx or whatever their sale is right now!! That is also a killer deal.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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Sound Performance +1

Honestly - I trust Sound Performance more than ZPI. SP's track record is longer and cleaner than ZPI's. What ZPI has in its favor is that it specializes in the tC.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by zer0
Turbonetics has more potential then the ZPI stage 1... I cant justify spending $4200 for a EVO GT 16g, when for $4500 you can get a Ball Bearing 50trim with great HP potential.

Want some justification for choosing a 16G over the t3/t4 used by Turbonetics:

1) 16G is going to spool a whole heckuva lot faster than the t3/t4...enough said.


If you want to be amongst the fastest, then go with a quicker spooling turbo. Sure there is potential to put out more hp IN THE END, when you are trying to MAX the turbine. PSI for PSI, the Big Evo 16G that ZPI uses will out run a T3/T4 turbine used by the other competitors.

Want to know what a ZPI Stage 1 on 7/8 PSI of boost is capable of running in the 1/4 on Stock Scion tires, Stock engine? The fastest time of the day was 13.4 on Scion tires for the ZPI car @ 7/8 PSI

Click the link below:

Click here to watch Turbonetics-vs-ZPI
Nice race. If I remember correctly Munch bolted his Turbonetics kit on and got 13.7
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Schuller
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by zer0
Turbonetics has more potential then the ZPI stage 1... I cant justify spending $4200 for a EVO GT 16g, when for $4500 you can get a Ball Bearing 50trim with great HP potential.

Want some justification for choosing a 16G over the t3/t4 used by Turbonetics:

1) 16G is going to spool a whole heckuva lot faster than the t3/t4...enough said.


If you want to be amongst the fastest, then go with a quicker spooling turbo. Sure there is potential to put out more hp IN THE END, when you are trying to MAX the turbine. PSI for PSI, the Big Evo 16G that ZPI uses will out run a T3/T4 turbine used by the other competitors.

Want to know what a ZPI Stage 1 on 7/8 PSI of boost is capable of running in the 1/4 on Stock Scion tires, Stock engine? The fastest time of the day was 13.4 on Scion tires for the ZPI car @ 7/8 PSI

Click the link below:

Click here to watch Turbonetics-vs-ZPI
Nice race. If I remember correctly Munch bolted his Turbonetics kit on and got 13.7
with 19's on
with the stock 17's he would do a lil better
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Schuller
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by zer0
Turbonetics has more potential then the ZPI stage 1... I cant justify spending $4200 for a EVO GT 16g, when for $4500 you can get a Ball Bearing 50trim with great HP potential.

Want some justification for choosing a 16G over the t3/t4 used by Turbonetics:

1) 16G is going to spool a whole heckuva lot faster than the t3/t4...enough said.


If you want to be amongst the fastest, then go with a quicker spooling turbo. Sure there is potential to put out more hp IN THE END, when you are trying to MAX the turbine. PSI for PSI, the Big Evo 16G that ZPI uses will out run a T3/T4 turbine used by the other competitors.

Want to know what a ZPI Stage 1 on 7/8 PSI of boost is capable of running in the 1/4 on Stock Scion tires, Stock engine? The fastest time of the day was 13.4 on Scion tires for the ZPI car @ 7/8 PSI

Click the link below:

Click here to watch Turbonetics-vs-ZPI
Nice race. If I remember correctly Munch bolted his Turbonetics kit on and got 13.7

13.4 > 13.7. And if you look in Munch's vid, his front wheels are different than the rear. Wonder what kinda tires where on it
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I'm looking for a apples-to-apples comparison of those four kits ie. GReddy, ZPI,TN, Dezod. Personally, I want a bolt-on kit, middle of the road performance, and close-to-stock install.
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by boomshakadae
I'm looking for a apples-to-apples comparison of those four kits ie. GReddy, ZPI,TN, Dezod.

There use to be a F/I Comparison Thread. Don't know where it went too.

But there is no Apples-to-Apples comparison though.

TN is similar to Dezod in that they use the same turbines.

ZPI is the only company that uses the BIG Evo III 16G

GReddy uses the 18G, which is very similar to the 16G that ZPI uses.
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Dezod - PnP harness, also their custom spec'd turbo on the S1 gives you the power you need and spools quick so you can have it streetable around town hitting 5psi by 2k rpms...

Worksmanship is top notch and they are super knowledgeable, friendly and provide amazing assistance when you have a question.

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Originally Posted by paul_dezod
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
If you show me a customer car going faster than 12.7, then that's cool too. I will say it was faster. Notice I mentioned PSI for PSI though. PSI for PSI, the 16G is/will outrun the t3/t4's.
Nice excuse though.
Here we go again......................

CFM is what matters. CFM.

Let's not start this debate AGAIN. All depends on the turbo, cfm rate, tune, turbine A/R......Too many variables to make a general assumption like that.
ur knowledge and experience is what made your kit... my kit



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