i'm posting this so " DTRUONG_112 " can compare dyno graph. My dyno# are some what disappointting, but not as bad as DTRUONG_112.

vehicle is completely stock minus the turbonetic kit. A/F were 11.5:1 straight through.

Dyno# are lower then expected, but the vehicle is a blast to drive now. i could never go back to NA, gotta love the boost

Two minor issue with this kit that i have notice and mention in the past, transition from vaccum to boost is not smooth and sometime the engine stall after boost. Other then that turbonetic gets two thumps up from me.

The Unichip is a great system, but the fact that only a certified tech can tune it really hurts alot of customer's wallet.

 

wow those are low numbers..so how many cases of this has there been? two? ur's and dtroung's?

 

Eh, a little disappointing..

 

jeze - lacking 20whp then what they claim isnt good. I bet going from 140whp to 220whp is a nice increase.

 

im wondering if they are pulling a bunch of timing up top .

 

indeed disapointing. either turbonetic were using a higher octane gas or a no cat free flowing exhaust system.

 

that is really odd looking at the graph... It is possible that turbonetics had a few engines go so they started sending out a super safe tune...but who knows... Timing would have to be yanked hard to produce torque numbers like that.

With the supercharger the ecm yanks timing as rpm rises. So once it hits approx 200 torque, it flatlines all the way to redline. That tune looks like it yanks timing even harder than the trd map!

This graph is for reference only as we all know the turbo kits can produce more hp than the sc currently can...

 

or they have a bad batch of tune's going out

 

ive heard of issue with all 3 turbo kits

 

heck there are issues with all kits out there. All good. Things will get sorted out.

 

whats an issue w/ zpi's becides it taking awhile to get?

 

I haven't had a single problem with the kit. It's set to pig rich, and that's about it. Then again, we got it professionally installed and tuned by ZPI themselves. I couldn't take any chances, so we just got the ZPI Platinum package... At the Scion Shootout, the only TN tC that came got his car dynoed too. Albiet it was on a Dyno Dynamics (which reads lower than most), and his numbers were like 205ish. Which on a Dynojet, I estimate it would have seen the TN avertised #'s. I think he said it was on like a 12 something AFR. Those of you with lower than avertised readouts I think just needs a re-tune. As you can't slap the same tune on a car in Cali as you do in North Dakota, and expect to make the same whp #'s.

Kenny told us that every tC is different. So, when he tunes the ZPI kits, or any kit for that matter, he tunes it for reliablity, but that he has never same two tC's the same.



PS..There is no such thing as the ZPI Platinum package...LOL.

 

Just to let you know, they just recieved a large shippment of piping for the kits. Also, if you feel like driving, and you drove to their shop with cash in hand for a kit, they would build you one by hand and have you back home in a few days.

 

yeah thats what i did stayed for 3-4 days pigging out on white castle (since florida doesnt have it) and mcdonalds..

 

at least you have more power than me KJIN.

 

has anyone considered that maybe the mandatory reformulated gasoline (e10) is affecting everyone?

 

^^We have good ole' 93 Octane pumping through it's veins.

 

if i wasnt 12hours away I would. Sucks.

 

well if e10 is ethanol I would imagine it will actually help performace , since alcohol is much higher octane then gasoline .

 

read some more thread, you'll find out that ZPI customer's has had their fair share of stalling and other problems.


ok with that being said, lets try not to make this thread a Turbonetic vs zpi. There are turbonetic & zpi cheerleaders that always turn thread like this into a ____ match.

DTRUONG_112 , my number are just a bit higher because i don' have that huge dip around 5300rpm. Looks like your vtec kicks in at 5300rpm, . both graph show a dip at 6k rpm. the unichip must be pulling mad timing because of pinging, i'm not sure. it could be the factory ecu doing its thing. I look at my wideband gauge and everything was very smooth through out the rpm.