Turbotoyotas "ZPI" replacement/Mitsu flanged Manif
#21
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
#22
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
http://www.full-race.com/articles/Bs...st_writeup.pdf
#23
Well, that was also testing an EL tubular mani. This one is not exactly EL, but yeah, we can assume a slowing spooling of a few hundred RPM.
I know Travis would only be interested in track times (as would we all) but I would LOVE to see a comparative dyno sheet before and after the TT ZPI replacement mani.
I know Travis would only be interested in track times (as would we all) but I would LOVE to see a comparative dyno sheet before and after the TT ZPI replacement mani.
#24
know Travis would only be interested in track times (as would we all
but I would LOVE to see a comparative dyno sheet before and after the TT ZPI replacement mani.
Regards-
Todd
#25
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
http://www.full-race.com/articles/Bs...st_writeup.pdf
I tend to like to see it on the actual setup in question. Sorry for me being a little more particular.
#28
Originally Posted by OuterHeaven
Is this still going to have the external wategate in the same place??
From the looks of it, the wg would not be in the same spot. But this IS the demo piece, so a lot remains to be seen.
#30
From the looks of it, the wg would not be in the same spot. But this IS the demo piece, so a lot remains to be seen.
wheres the dezod replacement manifold
Regards-
Todd
#33
when are these goin to be on the market
Built to order.
I will also have a new dp that bolts up to my existing s-pipe
Regards-
Todd
#36
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
#37
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
Log Manifolds will spool the turbine faster due to having shorter runners. This is why I want to know how this manifold will work in conjunction with the small 16G. This isn't just a manifold you know, it's for replacing the manifold in the ZPI kit, which most people using ZPI kits are running 16G turbines.
#38
When will you have a better picture?? Also what will the pricing of this manifold run about??
In the $550.00 range
Regards-
Todd
#40
so, you think because the exhaust has a shorter distance to travel, that means the turbo spools up more quickly?? Not necessarily. Yes, logs will spool fast (and your boost will creep) ....that doesn't mean a properly designed EL tubular manifold won't. Eliminating pulse overlap and providing a smooth unrestricted flow to the turbine makes for quick spooling as well.
Get it yet?
Logs will spool a turbo. EL tubular spools it the right way.
Jesus, look at Rado's turbo manifold on the time attack car.....doesn't look like he had any issues with slow spool up.
probably wouldnt affect the spool to much, as the 16g spools instantly anyway. but im sure it would help the top end a good bit. plus it would look alot better, and help to get some of the kenny strickler taint out of the engine bay.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
This manifold > log manifold.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
Log Manifolds will spool the turbine faster due to having shorter runners. This is why I want to know how this manifold will work in conjunction with the small 16G. This isn't just a manifold you know, it's for replacing the manifold in the ZPI kit, which most people using ZPI kits are running 16G turbines.
Get it yet?
Logs will spool a turbo. EL tubular spools it the right way.
Jesus, look at Rado's turbo manifold on the time attack car.....doesn't look like he had any issues with slow spool up.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
Log Manifolds will spool the turbine faster due to having shorter runners. This is why I want to know how this manifold will work in conjunction with the small 16G. This isn't just a manifold you know, it's for replacing the manifold in the ZPI kit, which most people using ZPI kits are running 16G turbines.