Turbotoyotas "ZPI" replacement/Mitsu flanged Manif
01-15-2008, 06:52 PM
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Well...you obviously know what your talking about, but you keep comparing the zpi log style to an el mani. This is not an EL mani...so none of your coments have any relevence in this thread.
01-15-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
so, you think because the exhaust has a shorter distance to travel, that means the turbo spools up more quickly?? Not necessarily. Yes, logs will spool fast (and your boost will creep) ....that doesn't mean a properly designed EL tubular manifold won't. Eliminating pulse overlap and providing a smooth unrestricted flow to the turbine makes for quick spooling as well.
Get it yet?
Logs will spool a turbo. EL tubular spools it the right way.
Jesus, look at Rado's turbo manifold on the time attack car.....doesn't look like he had any issues with slow spool up.
probably wouldnt affect the spool to much, as the 16g spools instantly anyway. but im sure it would help the top end a good bit. plus it would look alot better, and help to get some of the kenny strickler taint out of the engine bay. 
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
This manifold > log manifold.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
Log Manifolds will spool the turbine faster due to having shorter runners. This is why I want to know how this manifold will work in conjunction with the small 16G. This isn't just a manifold you know, it's for replacing the manifold in the ZPI kit, which most people using ZPI kits are running 16G turbines.
Get it yet?
Logs will spool a turbo. EL tubular spools it the right way.
Jesus, look at Rado's turbo manifold on the time attack car.....doesn't look like he had any issues with slow spool up.
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by brett561tc
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Who's going to be the Guinea pig to test this out? 3rd party needs to give accurate account on how this effects the spooling characteristics of the 16G.
Log Manifod + 16G = Fast spooling
Big Tube manifold + 16G = Untested and speculations on spooling difference.
anyone who understands the purpose of a manifold and the flow characteristics of each design should know this.
Log manifolds are easier to make and they work....thats the ONLY reason why you seem them.
This manifold (assuming its properly matched with the right turbo and supporting mods ie. 3" DP, full exhaust and properly tuned) will spool practically just as quick, with less surging and more stable PSIs.
Log Manifolds will spool the turbine faster due to having shorter runners. This is why I want to know how this manifold will work in conjunction with the small 16G. This isn't just a manifold you know, it's for replacing the manifold in the ZPI kit, which most people using ZPI kits are running 16G turbines.
What are you getting all upset for? All I want to know is the spooling characteristics between a Log style + 16G and with this new manifold + 16G.
Geesh is that such a hard request without someone trying to get all bent out of shape? People take what you say and go into fu@kin left field with it...
01-16-2008, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^What BB type turbines come with a Mitsu flange?
My broke a$$ can't afford a different turbo, so I have never even researched it
01-16-2008, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^What BB type turbines come with a Mitsu flange?
My broke a$$ can't afford a different turbo, so I have never even researched it
u needz to sell some more zippos mang! :D
01-16-2008, 06:13 PM
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looking for info regarding replacement manifold & downpipe for greddy kit.. possible ext wastegate
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SePaTC knows what he is talking about....I am not going to elaborate as I will let the results speak for themselves.....
But you guys need to relax
[quote]group buy!
Sure...
Start a list:
Get 5 customers together and I will make a "group buy" happen
1- Celix???
2-Boi???
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regards-
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01-16-2008, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
Originally Posted by Scott8
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
^^What BB type turbines come with a Mitsu flange?
My broke a$$ can't afford a different turbo, so I have never even researched it
u needz to sell some more zippos mang! :D
Todd,
is there a ball bearing turbo that us 16g guys can upgrade to in the future?
01-16-2008, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboToyotas
Got them both...will be posting soon. But in the meantime like he said..email me at
Todd@whyindustries.com
SePaTC knows what he is talking about....I am not going to elaborate as I will let the results speak for themselves.....
But you guys need to relax
Todd@whyindustries.com
SePaTC knows what he is talking about....I am not going to elaborate as I will let the results speak for themselves.....
But you guys need to relax
yup, i guess we'll just have to see which one performs better with the 16g.