Upgrading my scion
#1
Upgrading my scion
Hi there. I'm new to Scionlife, but i heard that this was a good place to go to get some answers for any questions i had for my tc. well, when i get back from iraq in a couple months here i will be looking to add a few things to my scion tc. I was looking at getting a dual exhaust first off. i know that i will have to round out the other side of my rear bumper for the dual exhaust, i'm fine with that, since i know it will look good, but will i have to do anything else or add anything else to my car before putting it on?
Also i will be getting a turbo sometime afterwards so i want an exhaust that can support the full power that a turbo will put out. what other upgrades/modifications to my tc do i NEED to make to support a turbo charged engine? what upgrades/modifications would be ideal- but not absolutely mandatory- would you suggest I look into getting?
And what is a good ballpark price total for upgrading a tc to a turbo?
thanks alot in advance
Also i will be getting a turbo sometime afterwards so i want an exhaust that can support the full power that a turbo will put out. what other upgrades/modifications to my tc do i NEED to make to support a turbo charged engine? what upgrades/modifications would be ideal- but not absolutely mandatory- would you suggest I look into getting?
And what is a good ballpark price total for upgrading a tc to a turbo?
thanks alot in advance
#2
Hello and welcome to ScionLife
This is a great place to get answers to lots of questions, but first before anyone else says this,
The sky is the limit
You can power your tC to nearly 1400HP with the funds, the questions WE are asking is how much are you looking to spend?
Technically, you can run of the stock exhaust with the turbocharged engine, or you can run on a full race exhaust, the choice is yours, and having one or the other won't affect reliability of the engine, it will just effect how much power you are going to make
The full exhaust on a turbo can net anywhere betrween 15whp and 30whp.
Gauges are a must, you need to keep your eyes on the engine. Some people will say they aren't necessary, but they will let you know when your car is running good or like crap.
You should also look into some new motor mounts, and if you plan on making a whole lot of power and torque, some new axles, pistons, and rods.
If you are looking to run under 280whp, i wouldnt suggest the rods, pistons, or axles, but it would be ideal to have them.
This is a great place to get answers to lots of questions, but first before anyone else says this,
The sky is the limit
You can power your tC to nearly 1400HP with the funds, the questions WE are asking is how much are you looking to spend?
Technically, you can run of the stock exhaust with the turbocharged engine, or you can run on a full race exhaust, the choice is yours, and having one or the other won't affect reliability of the engine, it will just effect how much power you are going to make
The full exhaust on a turbo can net anywhere betrween 15whp and 30whp.
Gauges are a must, you need to keep your eyes on the engine. Some people will say they aren't necessary, but they will let you know when your car is running good or like crap.
You should also look into some new motor mounts, and if you plan on making a whole lot of power and torque, some new axles, pistons, and rods.
If you are looking to run under 280whp, i wouldnt suggest the rods, pistons, or axles, but it would be ideal to have them.
#4
the only production dual exhaust right now is the one made by precision muffler. i wouldnt suggest getting that if you are going turbo becuase the way the connect the mufflers is a t-pipe and that is just horrible for exhaust flow. if i were you i would stick to a single muffler cat back, such as the magnaflow or some sort.
and as far as turbo, imho the best out their rite now is turbonetics, unless you live near ZPI racing then i would go with them, but guessing from your SN you live in cali, and to be honest i wouldnt deal with ZPI on a phone to phone basis.
I would plan to spend around 7k for everything which includes, but is not limited to:
-Turbo
-S-pipe
-Cat Back Exhaust
-Tires(you will want hte extra grip so you can actually put power to the ground)
-ETD- you will want an engine torque damper once again.. so you can put the power you have to the ground.
-Gauges-as the quiet things said.. you want to keep an eye on your engine
Its not cheap, but no one ever said it would be. if you are gonna do something do it right, dont do half-assed jobs that will comprise the integrity of your engine.
and as far as turbo, imho the best out their rite now is turbonetics, unless you live near ZPI racing then i would go with them, but guessing from your SN you live in cali, and to be honest i wouldnt deal with ZPI on a phone to phone basis.
I would plan to spend around 7k for everything which includes, but is not limited to:
-Turbo
-S-pipe
-Cat Back Exhaust
-Tires(you will want hte extra grip so you can actually put power to the ground)
-ETD- you will want an engine torque damper once again.. so you can put the power you have to the ground.
-Gauges-as the quiet things said.. you want to keep an eye on your engine
Its not cheap, but no one ever said it would be. if you are gonna do something do it right, dont do half-assed jobs that will comprise the integrity of your engine.
#5
And what is a good ballpark price total for upgrading a tc to a turbo?
1. Turbocharger kit itself. Dezod, Turbonetics, or Sound Performance
2. Stronger clutch would be a very good idea
3. The full exhaust of your choice, not necessary but you're asking about one
4. Gauges/gauge pod, pretty much mandatory.
5. Professional tuning, it would be stupid if you didn't do that
6. turbo timer, not necessary but a good idea
7. fix it tickets/impound fees since you're in CA, it will happen.
plus the cost of shipping and the cost of installing, any missing parts, install errors, or other problems. I'd say 8k would be a very safe estimate.
#6
thanks alot for the info. ya i'm looking to spend around 6-9 grand on it. like you said, i definately don't want to half-___ it and pay for it later on. i want to do it right, so i'm trying to get the best idea of what exactly is needed for my upgrades and the viabilty and reasons for upgrading each part of my car.
thanks again for the help. i'll be coming back to check this thread often, so anything that you can offer to help expand my knowledge is greatly appreciated.
thanks again for the help. i'll be coming back to check this thread often, so anything that you can offer to help expand my knowledge is greatly appreciated.
#8
Originally Posted by mattvs
And what is a good ballpark price total for upgrading a tc to a turbo?
1. Turbocharger kit itself. Dezod, Turbonetics, or Sound Performance
2. Stronger clutch would be a very good idea
3. The full exhaust of your choice, not necessary but you're asking about one
4. Gauges/gauge pod, pretty much mandatory.
5. Professional tuning, it would be stupid if you didn't do that
6. turbo timer, not necessary but a good idea
7. fix it tickets/impound fees since you're in CA, it will happen.
.
plus the cost of shipping and the cost of installing, any missing parts, install errors, or other problems. I'd say 8k would be a very safe estimate
#10
It depends on the turbo kit you want to go with, but like everyone else has mentioned, your looking at 8k roughly.
If you want to be among the fastest tC's on the street, then go with ZPI or do a custom setup. If you want more bling, go with Turbonetics, and then from there, it's just your choice.
If you want to be among the fastest tC's on the street, then go with ZPI or do a custom setup. If you want more bling, go with Turbonetics, and then from there, it's just your choice.
#11
He said he wanted to get a kit, not wait for kit
I'd never run with a pre-tune. All cars are different, even if they're the same make/model.
And he says he doesn't want to cut corners, so professional tune it is ;)
the turbonetics kit comes with the unichip that is already pre tuned
And he says he doesn't want to cut corners, so professional tune it is ;)
#12
Originally Posted by mattvs
He said he wanted to get a kit, not wait for kit
Hence the reason a staff increase has been taken place, and a new V.P. of Business is aboard. Looking to change that around. Also, kits have been going out the door like there is no tomorrow.
If you roll up next to a ZPI powered tC, you better have your game face on if you choose to go with another turbo kit.
#13
Originally Posted by mattvs
He said he wanted to get a kit, not wait for kit
I'd never run with a pre-tune. All cars are different, even if they're the same make/model.
And he says he doesn't want to cut corners, so professional tune it is ;)
the turbonetics kit comes with the unichip that is already pre tuned
And he says he doesn't want to cut corners, so professional tune it is ;)
As far as your options, you have ZPI,Dezod, Turbonetics, Sound Performance, and then Custom. So depending what you are looking you can go as alow as 230whp zpi stage 0, mid range 240-270whp dezdo/turbonetcis/sound performance, High power, 300whp+ zpi stage 1, dezod stage 2( dont think its avaliable yet,) you have alot of options out of the box. But your best bet is get kit, gauges, Tuning(even if it comes pretuned, and pro install I highly recommend(see peteyd saga) anything else you can ask one of the sponosors directly.
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