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Old 05-20-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default What stuff to get to be 300+WHP?

OK, If I didn't get satisfied with 250HP with more TQ, I "will" go try out for 300+WHP...

But first, how?

Can the ZPI stage-1 give this power with the 650CC injectors and E-Manage U? Or do I need a new turbo assembly? Also, If I buy a kit ready for 350WHP can I still drop its boost to go below 260WHP?

ZEX N2O is also my option for last ditch attempts to catch up a bit with slightly modded EVO's and STis.
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ZPI S1 will do it just fine. Dezod and Treadstone will get you there too.
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ZPI/DEZOD have both proved with dyno's that 300+ is easily attainable.
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also the Hydra management is giving better results than E-manage!
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What else do I need to replace if I do a 75 shot N2O if, I'm already 320WHP already with turbo? And N2O for occasional use only...
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Originally Posted by trdtcpr
also the Hydra management is giving better results than E-manage!
Yes and ALOT safer!


BUy any tubro kit out there. Throw in a standalone and your good to go for 300whp safely.
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if your going to turbo already at 320whp, id probably build your engine first (bottom end), 75 shot doesn't sound to like its gonna keep that engine in tact...
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dude, i dont mean to sound like a jerk. but all your posts in the fi section so far could have been answered by doing a simple search.
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or you could go stock RWD @ 287 hp ;)
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this has been discussed over and over again. hate to say it but search next time.
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Originally Posted by surfcity40
or you could go stock RWD @ 287 hp ;)
or you can have an original car fwd with over 300whp which is cheaper, lighter, and will stomp a mudhole in that car stock!! originality and personality my friend, it says alot.

ROAR!!!
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Originally Posted by surfcity40
or you could go stock RWD @ 287 hp ;)

Well thats crank HP + Heavy car = not that fast. We are talking WHP. Dont z's dyno at like low to mid 200's on the dyno? They look good though.
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I thought you wanted to keep your tC stock looking, going for the sleeper? You aint gonna go sleeper and get over 300hp. You need to make up your mind on what you want, pink.

No offense, pink, but you seem like a kid that just got his license and now you wanna drive absolultely everywhere...excepts it's not your license you just got, it's your scion life profile! Now your posting up like crazy when you could just look around for awhile and find the answers for most of your questions.

Oh, and I don't think you could get 200HP with the ZPI stage 0 unless you get the stage 1 upgrade kit, which I think is what you said you were planning on doing anyway in a previous thread.
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you can get well over 200whp with a zpi stage 0 with no stage 1 upgrade. you can get a 300whp car with the sleeper look. with my factory grills on you cannot see my intercooler unless your really looking for it. put in an exhaust cutoff valve and you can easily hit it.

as far as the 350's yes they are low 200 hp to the wheels. and they are really heavy. good looking car though.
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My bad, pllup. I was considering an intercooler as a stage 1 upgrade. I could be wrong, but I dont' think you could get 300 on a stage 0 without bigger injectors, a BOV and an intercooler, especially in Vegas. Possibly even some management. The way i was looking at it, if you get a stage 0, then get an intercooler, injectors and a BOV, it's basically like getting the stage 1 upgrade, just not neccissarily from ZPI.

And I think he wanted sleeper sound as well as sleeper look. That's what i ment would be hard to cover at 300hp, But I could be wrong about that as well.
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Originally Posted by Brett
dude, i dont mean to sound like a jerk. but all your posts in the fi section so far could have been answered by doing a simple search.
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I said, If I didn't get satisfied with a 250HP tC...

I just wanted to know if I needed a different turbo with ball bearing 20 to achieve 300+WHP... and if the engine could still take N2O. I'm not trying to be an ___...


I just ordered my "Maximum Boost" book... so, I should know how the stuff works after I get that reference, and won't be a total Turbo EFI newbie...

BTW: I turbo'd a car once but it was a 1.3L carb engine and got other pipz custom install it for 3 days... (that's in the Philippines) So I still have no idea how it works with EFI.
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if youre not happy with 250 hp then turn up the boost to 10.. most kits will get you around 250 on the base 8 psi maps they come with .. and if you read the stickies on the top of the forum you get most of this information you need.. consolidate all your threads brother.. you can get all these questions answered in one thread.. good luck on the boostage.. what ever you do.. youll be happy.. watch some of rythmns vids.. hes running 10 psi on a zpi stage 1 i think and hes just stomping on everyone
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
My bad, pllup. I was considering an intercooler as a stage 1 upgrade. I could be wrong, but I dont' think you could get 300 on a stage 0 without bigger injectors, a BOV and an intercooler, especially in Vegas. Possibly even some management. The way i was looking at it, if you get a stage 0, then get an intercooler, injectors and a BOV, it's basically like getting the stage 1 upgrade, just not neccissarily from ZPI.

And I think he wanted sleeper sound as well as sleeper look. That's what i ment would be hard to cover at 300hp, But I could be wrong about that as well.
maybe i misread, an intercooler is a stage 1 upgrade. with a few added other things such as bov and i believe bigger injectors. yeah you probably wont hit 300whp with a stage 0, but why would you want to? you really should intercool forced air, and have a bov since its not the best thing to surge the compressor. honestly, just get a stage 1 kit.

by the way, no 300whp car is going to be a full sleeper, the exhaust on even factory cars that have that much "usually" make a significant amount of noise. on top of that the only ones that dont have motors that are twice to 3 times bigger then ours. you can get a sleeper look and still pull huge power. zpi stage 1 with factory exhaust i yielded 263whp 280tq. thats damn good, and i had 2 exhaust and 3 boost leaks . mind you my videos on youtube are running at 10psi as well.
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I just baseline dyno'd a stock 05 6 Speed 350Z and she put down 233whp.
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