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Old 11-20-2008, 04:25 AM
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so i am less and less psyched about the place that did my install. my car is having some start up issues, and my tune is too lean.
i need a legit tuner near delaware that will tune the aem fic i am willing to drive a ways if i have too.
secondly when i had my turbo installed i asked the shop to order and install two step colder spark plugs they said they did. i was just going through the box with all the stock parts and what not came across the box to the spark plugs they used and checked the part number and they are direct oem replacements. so they're idiots. now im wondering if the start up issue is a result of that? can i just swap out to colder plugs with out adjusting anything?
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dude u def should get some colder spark plugs in there
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sense your up for a drive, why not try JE imports, located in baltimore?
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baltimore works are they good?
about the plugs can i just pop em in?
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im not 100% sure but i dont think your issues are sparkplug related. Iv heard of a couple of people temperarily using stock plugs while on boost. Ask java i think he has used the stock plugs while boosted then swaped em out for 2 step colder, he should be able to tell you if ther was any difference.
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Send me your map, I'll see if I can help with the start up problems. My car was barely starting when it was under 35 degrees outside and I just lowered my startup fuel trim. Fires up normally now.

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when did u get it tuned? starts in very cold weather are different than during the summer

pull your plugs and check the part number on them
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:23 PM
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thanks carbon I'll send it to you when I get off work
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Old 11-21-2008, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
Send me your map, I'll see if I can help with the start up problems. My car was barely starting when it was under 35 degrees outside and I just lowered my startup fuel trim. Fires up normally now.

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it has been sent sir
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What the duece did you send me .

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hey man its dave2610 from scionlife thanks for taking a look at my map.



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Just attach the .fi6 file
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:44 AM
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i thought i had lets try this again
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
What the duece did you send me .

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Just attach the .fi6 file
i think i see his problem

fuel map is full of A's
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I'm going to need a bit more information. Where is it lean exactly? How lean @ how much boost or vacuum?

Just fill this out, AFR range for...
Warm Idle -
Cruising @ 20inHG @ 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Light accel @ 10inHG 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Light boost @ 1-2psi 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Medium boost @ 5-7psi 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
WOT @ peak boost 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
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Originally Posted by crush02342002

i think i see his problem

fuel map is full of A's
thats the new hotness i thought you knew
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Originally Posted by CarbonXe
I'm going to need a bit more information. Where is it lean exactly? How lean @ how much boost or vacuum?

Just fill this out, AFR range for...
Warm Idle -
Cruising @ 20inHG @ 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Light accel @ 10inHG 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Light boost @ 1-2psi 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
Medium boost @ 5-7psi 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
WOT @ peak boost 2000RPM - 3000RPM - 3500RPM -
do you just want the afr range for each or one for each rpm
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Each RPM. Your tune is all over the place, this is the third tune I've seen like this that has been problematic. The only thing I can think of for the start up problem, is that it's not getting enough fuel. I had some start up issues, and I was giving it too much fuel, so I cut it back to whatever my idle fuel trim was, and it fires up perfectly now. You're running a decent amount of less fuel for start up. Then again, it could be the plugs giving you the starting problem.
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Old 11-21-2008, 07:40 PM
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ok ill get em for you tonight
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sent the afrs
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