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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Default ZPI Stage 0 Turbo: How Good Is It?

When I first opened mt tc's hood at the dealership I thought "that hole definitely needs a turbo." Later, I decided not enough traction for turbo. Now, I'm thinking seriously about installing a ZPI stage 0.

Everyone using these:
How many miles do you have on them?
Have you had any problems (clutch, idleing,or other) since installing it?
Are these junk, aight, or the ****?

REVIEWS PLEASE
Is the ZPI the way to go?
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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I havnet had any issues with mine...its been in for about 3 days now...there is a bit of an idling issue but its getting fixed tonight with 1 step colder spark plugs. On a scale of 1-10 on how good ill rate it a 8.5.....traction hasnt really been an issue yet. If you have a m/t you dont need a ne clutch until you get the stage 1 so a stage 0 you will be fine. and where in texas are you??
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:33 PM
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Caldwell just west of "Aggieland". I thought I read in another thread that you installed an intercooler on yours. Is that an add on option?
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Caldwell just west of "Aggieland". I thought I read in another thread that you installed an intercooler on yours. Is that an add on option?
yes its an added option. its not really necessary but in the longrun will be helpful.
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looking into the Stage 0 ZPI turbo as well, but mine will be for for an a/t
i heard there will be an upgrade ZPI ESK for a/t that can handle up to 500whp

and how much extra is the intercoller along with piping? thanks
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Just read around. If you get the install right the kit is freaking perfect.
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I've read a lot of threads. Have never owned a turbo anything. And am looking for advice from people who've owned them and really know them inside and out.
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I am also highly interested in the ZPI Stage 0.

200+horsepower is good enough for me.

Questions:

Being that its not a high boosting turbo wouldn't it spool alot faster?

Will it wear down the engine faster?

How long is the break in process?
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im watching this one...im looking at going f/i as well
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Originally Posted by FireStorm
I am also highly interested in the ZPI Stage 0.

200+horsepower is good enough for me.

Questions:

Being that its not a high boosting turbo wouldn't it spool alot faster?

Will it wear down the engine faster?

How long is the break in process?
Yeah, it spools crazy fast. There isn't any 5000 rpm boost here.....It starts spoolin by 2600 rpm and full boost by 3400 or so.

Yes, it will wear you engine out faster.....because you will be hooked on the power and live a boosted life...it will also get you more tickets.

Seriously tho, this small boost is proven to be minimum impact...as long as it's well cared for and not rode hard and put away wet. Read this thread . Fantastic.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=105044

Break in process is about 10 minutes. Mainly to recheck all connections, oil flow/leaks, etc. Then cruise.
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I am also interested in f/I. So far looking at either the TRD supercharger and ZPI pulley for extra HP. Or the ZPI stage 0, but I heard that the check engine light may come on. Anyone have problems with that, and if so...what can you do to fix this problem????
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Originally Posted by peteyd
I havnet had any issues with mine...its been in for about 3 days now...there is a bit of an idling issue but its getting fixed tonight with 1 step colder spark plugs. On a scale of 1-10 on how good ill rate it a 8.5.....traction hasnt really been an issue yet. If you have a m/t you dont need a ne clutch until you get the stage 1 so a stage 0 you will be fine. and where in texas are you??
so pete that was ur big surprise? lol i'd like to check it out in person sometime. congrats!
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Originally Posted by 05-RS1
Originally Posted by peteyd
I havnet had any issues with mine...its been in for about 3 days now...there is a bit of an idling issue but its getting fixed tonight with 1 step colder spark plugs. On a scale of 1-10 on how good ill rate it a 8.5.....traction hasnt really been an issue yet. If you have a m/t you dont need a ne clutch until you get the stage 1 so a stage 0 you will be fine. and where in texas are you??
so pete that was ur big surprise? lol i'd like to check it out in person sometime. congrats!
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yeah.that's the only thing im kind of worried about...engine wear and tear
of course it will happen after a while of owning the car but with the turbo how fast will the engine...die/degrade/stop functioning
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Originally Posted by Nerek
yeah.that's the only thing im kind of worried about...engine wear and tear
of course it will happen after a while of owning the car but with the turbo how fast will the engine...die/degrade/stop functioning
You have to pay to play. If a turbo kit makes me drive around like this :D all the time: then the engine dying a few thousand miles sooner is okay by me. It really all depends on your budget. According to that other thread if you keep revs down the turbo system does'nt add that much wear. All semi's are turbo and the majority last over a million miles on the original bottom end. Although they redline at about 2100 RPMs. Keep in mind we are talking about a Toyota engine here and not some half-@$$ed built POS.

Stage 0 Owners The point of this thread was really to find out what extra expenses could arise from this kit. Autometer pyrometer + boost gauges are around $160 each. Wideband O2 is even higher. Not everyone has unlimitied funds to throw at problems when they come up. Or extra cars to drive while their tc is down. I believe some of these younger guys watchin this thread need this info as well.
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In addition to the base kit, it really depends on what you want to do as for costs.

A boost gauge is a must have
An AFR wideband DEDICATED is very nice and runs around $300
A vacuum manifold $20
Have the exhaust manifold coated with Jet-Hot $120
EGT gauge is nice
Oil pressure
Oil temp
Copper wastegate gaskets $20
Fully synthetic oil
Premium fuel from then on
1 step colder plugs

In all, I would say an additional $500 to $1000 in addition to the turbo kit will make for a very good looking, strong and reliable ride. The gauges really help with the piece of mind to see what's going on. Clogged fuel injectors, vacuum leak, etc can really be bad to not see it happen.
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Originally Posted by ScionDad
In addition to the base kit, it really depends on what you want to do as for costs.

A boost gauge is a must have
An AFR wideband DEDICATED is very nice and runs around $300
A vacuum manifold $20
Have the exhaust manifold coated with Jet-Hot $120
EGT gauge is nice
Oil pressure
Oil temp
Copper wastegate gaskets $20
Fully synthetic oil
Premium fuel from then on
1 step colder plugs

In all, I would say an additional $500 to $1000 in addition to the turbo kit will make for a very good looking, strong and reliable ride. The gauges really help with the piece of mind to see what's going on. Clogged fuel injectors, vacuum leak, etc can really be bad to not see it happen.
What is Jet-Hot? I have never heard of that before.
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I see, well thanks for all the good info, looks like i'm gonna have to save up a quite a bit more money to grab one of these turbos..i bet it'll be worth it though

turbo kit...
intercooler...
a/t upgrade...
gauges/temp/meters...
exhaust...
install and maintain...
how much alltogether? =( this is gonna kill my bank acc.lol

on top of the 6K i've already put into the car(audio,visuals,wheels,bodykit)
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Originally Posted by THansenite
Originally Posted by ScionDad
In addition to the base kit, it really depends on what you want to do as for costs.

A boost gauge is a must have
An AFR wideband DEDICATED is very nice and runs around $300
A vacuum manifold $20
Have the exhaust manifold coated with Jet-Hot $120
EGT gauge is nice
Oil pressure
Oil temp
Copper wastegate gaskets $20
Fully synthetic oil
Premium fuel from then on
1 step colder plugs

In all, I would say an additional $500 to $1000 in addition to the turbo kit will make for a very good looking, strong and reliable ride. The gauges really help with the piece of mind to see what's going on. Clogged fuel injectors, vacuum leak, etc can really be bad to not see it happen.
What is Jet-Hot? I have never heard of that before.
Jet-Hot is a special coating that is applied to exhaust manifolds, headers, etc. This coating makes the parts look great, but more important, the coating acts as an insulator and drops the heat into the engine bay by up to 60%.

http://www.jet-hot.com/


I went with Blue which is good to 2000 degrees

Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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I was going to post... but ScionDad pretty much covered it..

Boost gauge is about $50 and up, depending on what you want.. AEM wideband is $279, EGT is nice, they start at like $129 or so.



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