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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:16 AM
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I'm going to be sound deadening my car, probably going to hit up the door panels (if I can figure out how to take them off), my trunk for sure, and maybe some on the wheel wells in the back if I have any to spare. So right now, I'm just looking around for the best bang for my buck for sound deadening material.

I'm looking on Ebay, and I found 100 sq ft of bquiet Extreme for $130 shipped, and that seems like a good deal from what i can see. I was going to go edead, but this thing on ebay seems alot cheaper.

Can anyone share some thoughts on how bquiet extreme is compared to everything else? Maybe you guys know of a good deal somewhere?
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:18 AM
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elemental designs! They offer edead in either sheets or as a paint on application. I like the idea of the paintable application and will be ordering mine soon as I have hear wonderful things about elemental designs and their edead products.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:19 AM
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If I remember correctly, B-quiet is asphalt based which means your car is going to stink.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:30 AM
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We used Scosche Accumat products on my car...and love the results. Cascade makes some really nice products too. Dynamat seems a bit overpriced, and don't have the variety of products for various applications like Scosche and Cascade.

Here's a good read: www.sounddeadenershowdown.com
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:36 AM
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If I remember correctly, B-quiet is asphalt based which means your car is going to stink.
True it is asphalt based, but so is edead v1, and I don't hear complaints from people on SL about that.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:42 AM
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Uhm...I've kept quiet about this, but Matt's used eDead - and he'll never use it again! What a mess!
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:48 AM
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Old Aug 24, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by lil_will
If I remember correctly, B-quiet is asphalt based which means your car is going to stink.
B-quiet doesn't really have a smell, despite being asphalt based. HOWEVER, that does not mean it will not succumb to the other problems of asphalt based dampening mats. I've used it in my 96 cavalier, and over time the heat caused the matting to pull away from the body panels it was adhered too. Additionally, the asphalt would liquefy, and began to drip at the seams.

I would NOT recommend using it on any vertical surface. You might be safe if you just do your floors with it, but find yourself a butyl based mat for any surface that is not parallel to the ground. I recommend Second Skin or Dynamat (if you have the $).

If you do ultimately go with b-quiet for the floors, tape up your seams with duct tape to prevent the asphalt from seeping through.
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second skin or rammat...
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Originally Posted by tml057
Originally Posted by lil_will
If I remember correctly, B-quiet is asphalt based which means your car is going to stink.
B-quiet doesn't really have a smell, despite being asphalt based. HOWEVER, that does not mean it will not succumb to the other problems of asphalt based dampening mats. I've used it in my 96 cavalier, and over time the heat caused the matting to pull away from the body panels it was adhered too. Additionally, the asphalt would liquefy, and began to drip at the seams.

I would NOT recommend using it on any vertical surface. You might be safe if you just do your floors with it, but find yourself a butyl based mat for any surface that is not parallel to the ground. I recommend Second Skin or Dynamat (if you have the $).

If you do ultimately go with b-quiet for the floors, tape up your seams with duct tape to prevent the asphalt from seeping through.
Good info. I used eDead V1SE on the floor in my car and damplifier on the vertical surfaces for that very reason.

Just remember the golden rule, you get what you pay for. Good to see you doing you're research now though.
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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I actually just found 120sq ft of edead v1² for $130 including shipping so I'll probably go with that.

I did not realize that edead would drip, do you guys happen to have personal experience of edead dripping?
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Originally Posted by trialsindude
second skin or rammat...
I'm now installing my rammaat,from the review that I was reading second skin is the best deadener but price is a lot higher than rammat. edead v1se2 is closest to raammat but shipping is lesser with raammat making them bout same price, v1se2 was also out of stock that time when i ordered but it is now.. Raammat has no smell at all (dunno in the future, most likely not) and is butyl based so is edead v1-v1se2 but the reviews says they are asphalt maybe they still have some asphalt on it... I say you cant go wrong with either of them..
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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I have used Elemental Designs eDead v1 and v1se2. Both worked out great. I don't think I would like painting on the v3, so I've stayed away from it. They both stuck on and stayed on in this Louisiana heat well. When I deaden my tC I will be putting eDead into it, nothing but.
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Originally Posted by Ace83
Originally Posted by trialsindude
second skin or rammat...
I'm now installing my rammaat,from the review that I was reading second skin is the best deadener but price is a lot higher than rammat. edead v1se2 is closest to raammat but shipping is lesser with raammat making them bout same price, v1se2 was also out of stock that time when i ordered but it is now.. Raammat has no smell at all (dunno in the future, most likely not) and is butyl based so is edead v1-v1se2 but the reviews says they are asphalt maybe they still have some asphalt on it... I say you cant go wrong with either of them..
From what I've read raammat is better than edead but the problem is that you have to buy a lot of it. You can't buy by the sqft like you can with edead.
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^^ that would be the advantage with edead if you know how much are you gonna be needing.. I got the raammat 120 sq ft (2 rolls) and Im about 60% done with the car only using 1 roll so 2 should be enough unless I wanna put more layers on other areas, 3 would be a lil more than enough.. But shipping is a lil high on my area for edead so 120 sq ft of edead will only be 10 buck less than raammat..
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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If I remember correctly, B-quiet is asphalt based which means your car is going to stink.
True it is asphalt based, but so is edead v1, and I don't hear complaints from people on SL about that.
All the new eDead is butyl based.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...products_id=51 The old stuff may've been asphault based, but the v1^2, v1se^2, and UE are all butyl core. Check it out. Maybe i'm missing something, but i believe i'm correct.
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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well on my case I used the edead V2. It took me one whole weekend to do the whole job. first I ripped everything out of the car. (no biggie) Then I started by brush painting the quarter panels, trunk area and rear seat area. After that was done next day I painted the doors (which was a pita), forward floor area and part of the firewall.

To be honest the smell was not that bad. At first it is kind of strong because it has to dry out and well where do U think all that water is gonna go to. So with that being said it took like a whole week for the smell to kind of faint . BTW the smell is not bad at all, after a while I kind of missed just like the new car smell and that's when I decided to do the hatch. The hatch didn't take that much of the edead, I would recomend using foam for the hatch because the space to get ur arms in there is just not enough.

One of the main reasons I edead my car was because I installed a megan drift catback and was kind of geting on my nervervs. The results were instant the road noise was almost gone, but it's not like ur car is going to become a Mercedes Bens all of the sudden, which is what most people say on this forums. On the exhaust it was definatelly more quiet but not enough, that my friend is why I decided to do the hatch and that made all the difference to the exhaust noise. It's kind of funny that it becomes so much quieter and when U lower the windows it's like caos outside Ur car (yes megan drift is loud)

I would definatelly recomend quiet tuning ur car with V2, but if u dont want to get messy it is not for U. What I would recomend for U is a mix of mat for the floor and big sections of the quarter panels and doors, v2 for smaller places that need to be covered but hard to do with the mat and foam for the hatch and quarter panels.

It took me about $100 of edead v2 to do the whole car and some foam from work for free. BTW I got the edead while it was on sale 50% off a while back for $25 the gallon, so I bought 4 of them cuz I was planning on doing my wife's car along with mine. Well I ended up using all 4 gallons on my car along because I did not use any mat.

Hope that helps on Ur project and if U have any ? fell free to pm me.
Old Aug 26, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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thanks alot guys, i'm just going to stick with edead v1². I don't think I can deal with the mess of painting on v3. ED has a good rep so I'll stick with them.

So I have 120sq ft of v1², how should I layer it up? I'm thinking priority goes to the doors and the hatch floor and wheelwells in the hatch area. I plan to do multiple layers on these areas but I'm not really sure how many I can put there.
I might do a little on the floor maybe under the rear seats, but I don't really feel liking taking off the front seats.

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i was just looking through the how to gut a tC and most of those guys were just using like 60sq ft, seems 120 might be overkill haha.
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No such thing. I highly recommend those gianormous quarter panels. I put 2 layer of damplifier and a layer of v4 on the top (in addition to some other places) and it sounds so much nicer in the car.
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60 is not enough to cover the whole car.. As for layers yeah wheel wells, door, quarter panel, floors, hatch floor, and you will know where you should put more layers, tap the metal high pitch sound or strong vibration needs more layer in my opinion, dull deep sound should be good.. I just finished everything except the two doors and hatch still have some left from my 120 sq meter so I would say its 120 sq is enough.. And to the OP since you're planning on v12 you might needs a lil more since v1 is thinner, (im using raammat) I would recommend v1se2 or UE if you have the budget..



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