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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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I have several questions. This may or may not have come up before. I tried to search but wasn't even sure I was searching for the right things.

What I want to do is replace the front speakers with something else. I've heard good things about Phoenix Gold, do they have anything for the front two speakers?

That drop right in?

Is there any complete system for the front two speakers for around $150-$200 including an amp?

I just want something with a little more umph then the stock but I don't want complete garbage. So if there isn't anything good close to this pricerange, just tell me can't be done. I currently am running a Pioneer 4900ib, RF P325.1, eD 11kv.2
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 03:17 AM
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there aren't any real drop-in speakers for the tc since toyota decided to put in some cheap pioneers that are riveted into the door. You'll have to either make some baffles or buy some. Here a more detailed install diy:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...peaker+install
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 04:24 AM
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That riveting sounds nasty. Would this be a problem if I ever wanted to trade in my car? In other words, is this completely reversible back to stock?

Also, bump for speaker+amp suggestions
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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it isn't reversible persay as you can't really re-rivet in the old speakers...

btw... the stock speakers actually perform awesome, but most of it's potential is held back from the stock headunit... along with any other crappy one.
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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Well, I wanted to do this because when I crank up the volume with nothing playing I get really bad hiss from them. I tried setting the levels to 0 and it still did it. Also, from 0-5 on my HU the Sub makes a thump when i turn the dial to the next volume level.
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by XSNiper
Well, I wanted to do this because when I crank up the volume with nothing playing I get really bad hiss from them.
Replacing the speakers with a better brand/model won't help, in fact it would make it worse, because the new speakers would be better at reproducing the hiss fed to them.

The issue in this scenario is the head unit's built-in amplification. If you upgrade the HU to a better aftermarket unit, you'll likely still have the same issue if you power the stock or upgraded speakers from the HU's built-in amp.

The best way to eliminate hiss is to power the stock or upgraded speakers with a dedicated amp that's fed a high-pass signal at the frequency appropriate for the speakers used. Once the system's gain structure has been set correctly (that's critical), you won't have hiss during the "absence of noise" test.

Good luck!
Old Jan 14, 2008 | 11:44 PM
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Ok I created a list of stuff that I need. I want to make sure I know how to wire this correctly. Correct me if I'm wrong. From what little I've seen so far it sounds like I could: -Place the amp in the back.
-Run an 8 gauge power wire from it to the battery. Ground with 8 gauge wire.
-Run some speaker wire to the xovers. ( I'm not sure how to do this cleanly).
-Run speaker wire from the xovers to the new tweeters. Remove the old tweeters. (I'm not sure how, cleanly.)
-Run speaker wire from the xovers to the new speakers wired in w/e ohm. Remove old speakers. Install new speakers with baffle.
-Put door back together. Adjust settings. Play music.
Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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^^^
Amp in back is fine, where ever you want to put it.
8 gauge will be fine for a small amp powering the front speakers.
No need to replace the front speakers to get rid of the hiss.
No crossover wiring required if you don't replace the speakers.
No need to remove the door panel if you don't replace the speakers.
Speaker wire from amp, splice in to stock speaker wires in kick panels.
Set amp's HPF to ~80Hz, adjust gain for no hiss = Done!

I'd suggest that first, as you could always upgrade the speakers later. Simply powering the stock speakers from a small amp with HPF will improve SQ quite a bit.
Old Jan 15, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Well, I went ahead and sold my xbox 360. So now I have an extra $300 I can use on some parts. I understand that amping the stock speakers will get rid of most of the hiss but I really want to just upgrade the speakers to get more output, clarity, and of course reduce/eliminate hiss.
So I have about $460 to upgrade my speakers.
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