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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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i just got some alpine type s comps installed and they sound like sh*t. i am suspecting that the installers hooked them up wrong. i opened up my doors and there is a connector next to the amp that is not used, it has four purple and pink wires...two of them are cut and the other two are used as the input on the crossover. does anyone know if this is the correct way to hook up the speakers. plz help
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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hmmm.......I'm doubting you have an amp in your doors...you're probably seeing the crossover.....I'd take it back to the installer and let them listen to it and show them what you found....ask them to explain what they did....then if they don't find any problems, bring ALL of the information they gave you here and maybe I or someone else can help you out....
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i just got some alpine type s comps installed and they sound like sh*t. i am suspecting that the installers hooked them up wrong. i opened up my doors and there is a connector next to the amp that is not used, it has four purple and pink wires...two of them are cut and the other two are used as the input on the crossover. does anyone know if this is the correct way to hook up the speakers. plz help
oops i meant theres a connector next to the tweeter....sorry
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ok.....that's probably your factory speaker plug.....one set(2) of those wires is the input to the tweeter and the other 2 are the output to the midrange.....if they didn't have the right ones hooked up, they wouldn't work at all.....
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Yeah, pink and purple...sounds like the factory harness....and the way you describe it working...they just wired into the factory wiring, correct?

I'm assuming you have no amp?
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that's what it sounds like to me.....i didn't even mess with the factory harness, just unplugged it......mandos: can you help at all??? thanks for the input!!
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Makaveli
i just got some alpine type s comps installed and they sound like sh*t. i am suspecting that the installers hooked them up wrong. i opened up my doors and there is a connector next to the amp that is not used, it has four purple and pink wires...two of them are cut and the other two are used as the input on the crossover. does anyone know if this is the correct way to hook up the speakers. plz help
Kinda depends on what you mean by ____ty. Is it lacking bass? Are the highs muffled?

As mandos asked, are you running an amp? Is it the stock head unit? Without an amp the speaker will not really perform to it's potential. You may want to check that they wired the +/- correctly. It should be:

LF Speaker Pos. - Pink
LF Speaker Neg. - Purple
RF Speaker Pos. - Light green
RF Speaker Neg. - Blue
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that's what it sounds like to me.....i didn't even mess with the factory harness, just unplugged it......mandos: can you help at all??? thanks for the input!!
Unfortunately I'm like you.

Well actually, I ran off the HU power for about 2 days. Didn't have time to get the speaker wires run and amps hooked up in one day.

All I know is that you'd take the wires that go into the tweeter and connect those to the x-over. There's a set of wires that runs from the tweeter to the mid...I assume the tweet's got a built in x-over and sends the lower frequencies to the mid. As long as the wire that runs to the tweet is going to your x-over, then the wires are running out of it to your speakers, it's wired fine.

If you're running on the stock HU, get a new one....if it still sounds like butt, get an amp. I know my eDi's running on my Eclipse left quite a bit to be desired before being amped ;)
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yes i have it running off an alpine 9827 HU and f240 amp. what i mean by ____ty is they have bad midbass. when i turn up the bass on HU then turn up the volume....the tweeters start to pop. so i can only turn it up so much and it sucks. i wish i never downgraded my speakers....
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make sure the connection going into the tweeters is coming from the "tweeter" output on the x-over
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Ok...so wait...you've got your speakers amped...and your using an aftermarket HU...AND they're still using the stock wires? Something sounds wrong with that. They should have run RCA's to your amp, then new speaker wire all the way from the amp to the HU...if they're splicing wires in all over the place, that could possibly lead to signal degredation.

I'd almost take it in...ask them how they wired that up, then come back here and tell us We'd be able to provide better insight then...but for now, it almost sounds like they were too lazy to run new wires into your door and screwed up there....or like SCI_TC_GUY said...wired your tweet wrong.
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^^^ i just thought of that too.......sounds like they were to lazy to run wires through the door jamb so they just spliced into the wires at the back of the HU.......also, check the x-over on the amp....make sure it's set to full range and not high pass.......other than that, you may tell them that it's wired wrong and you want uniform wire ran from the amp, through the door jamb and to the crossovers.....
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why not just take it back to the place that did the work?
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Originally Posted by WarrenSteve
why not just take it back to the place that did the work?
Exactly what I was getting at...make them do it the right way...not the 1/2 ___ lazy man way. You pay someone to install something, you pay for them to do it right.
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Make sure that the polarity is correct on the tweeter alpine used the black with a white stripe as the neg. alot of guys install them and just hook them up reversed
also make sure that they used the fiberfill discs in the tweeter enclosure that will throw off the sound as well. AND make them fix it you payed it should be right thats what you paid for
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Originally Posted by sraudio
Make sure that the polarity is correct on the tweeter alpine used the black with a white stripe as the neg. alot of guys install them and just hook them up reversed
also make sure that they used the fiberfill discs in the tweeter enclosure that will throw off the sound as well. AND make them fix it you payed it should be right thats what you paid for
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They're right on the money. The white stripe for the tweeters is indeed negative, and the tweeter depends on the fiberglass disc to "tune" the plastic cup.
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ok my tweeters were set correctly, it turns out that i busted my tweeter and i cant return them. so im planning to bridge my 4 channel to 2 channel which puts out 100x2 and get some better speakers, is this a good idea? can anyone tell me if the edi 6000s will give me the midbass i want? i have read good things about them. and mandos can u hook me up?
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