has anyone done this?? would it be the same as the radar detector hard wire??
just looking to see if this would be possible with out effing up the cell phone

 

as long as its a car charger i dont see why not. Its gonna be a little dif then hard wiring the radar detector i think. I radar detector is designed to take 12v dc. a cellphone is not. So youd have to open up the car charger part. take a look at it. figure out where the pos and neg are on the inside of that thing and hard wire it. shouldnt be too hard really.

you might even be able to soder on the + wire and - wire right onto the thing that goes into the cig lighter. It'd look kinda ghetto but it would get the job done.

 

A cell phone charger is 12V though...Thats the only way it works in a cigarette lighter. So I wouldn't see a problem with this working.

 

yea the charger is. the phone isnt. Atleast i dont think it is. So you would need to hard wire the actualy charger bit not just the wire like you would with the radar detector.

 

He's asking about the charger, not hardwiring in the phone itself O.o

The charger accepts 12Vdc, obviously it has to since that's what is put out by the outlet. You could tap any 12V source in the car that you'd like for the charger. You would be fine with wiring the charger in underneath someplace, and just having the connector stick out of, say the cupholder to plug in.

However, with 2 12Vdc outlets, I was planning on just wiring the one in the armrest to an always hot fuse and using it. Personally, I don't have a need for ever using more than 2 outlets at a time.

 

so it wold be ok if i hardwire the charger and conect the cell phone, right, since it takes the 12v from the cig. lighter.

 

Yep, just match up the + and - from any 12V line to the + and - of the input to your charger... I'm not sure what the best way to do this would be, you'd probably have to take off the shell of the charger to get to the power since it'd be difficulty to supply it right to the connector.

 

Thats exactly what I was insinuating....

 

Like german named hans is saying though. The phone may not actually take a straight 12V. The charger portion may kick down the voltage to the phone to a lower voltage through resistors.

If this is the case then I wouldn't just cut the wire on the charger and hardwire it. You would need to take apart the charger and tap off of the little pcb board inside of it, and then connect that to your 12V in your car.

I had to do this when I wired in my gps because there were resistors and little electronics on a pcb board on the plug that I didn't want to bypass.

That make sense?

 

Just throwing this out there, not sure where you are trying to put it but, depending on your phone they might make a dock for it and what I did was put the dock over the iPod holder below the shifter and drilled a hole in the iPod holder to run the wire to the dock and secured it with some double sided tape. And yes a cellphone charger can be hard wired, the only thing I suggest is getting an inline fuse to replace the fuse in the plastic piece you would normally plug in to the cigarette lighter.

 

[quote="cavalierkid888"The phone may not actually take a straight 12V. The charger portion may kick down the voltage to the phone to a lower voltage through resistors. [/quote]

For the record, you could verify this by looking at the voltage rating on your battery. Mine is 3.7V, and 3.7 or 5 would be the most common ratings, I believe. And the method for voltage division likely includes more than just resistors

I don't see why an in-line fuse would be necessary as long as you don't change any of the circuitry inside of the charger when you're wiring it in. As long as all you are doing is bypassing the connectio nwith your own permanent + and - taps, you would be OK.

 

Easy way around the inverter problem.. i did this with my XM unit... solder wires on the terminals of the charger, middle one is negative, outer one is positive, tape it up really good then splice those wires into wherever you want (accordingly powered)

Only reason i wouldnt do this is because cell phone chargers just break so much! 6 months im on my 4th one!

 

i have a car charger on the way so i will try this as soon as i get it and i will update on how it goes.

 

Easier way around the issue.... buy iphone, use ipod integration....

 

nah iphone too delicate for my hands, but I'd rather hardwire some multiple socket for you to connect more accessories since I could be changing phones and chargers every few months so it would be less messy

 

okay im mecp certified and this is how you do anything that has a car charger thiers two way to do one go to best buy and get a cig sock it slides on the end of the cig charger and has a positive and negitive wires comming off of it then you hook up the positive wire to the grey wire on your factory deck thats the acc wire so it will show 12 volt to the charger only when the car is in acc or on, for the negitve you can make your on ground or go to the brown wire on your factory harness. the cig sock is 10 dollars at best buy and it is fused. .....................the cheap way is two get a red and black wire about two feet long first take the black wire and strip about three inches off the insulation wrap it around and the the prongs on the side of the charger real good then e tape up to the nipple (the prong on the very end) now take the red wire and wrap around the the nipple real tight and e tape that (BUT DONT PUSH THE NIPPLE DOWN OR IT WONT WORK) now you have positive and negitive comming off the charger then just hook up just as stated in the upper portion thais will work for any car charger, gps, sat radio, radar, ext. the charger excepts the 12 volts then goes through resistors then shots out what ever volts the unit needs.......... as for hooking the wires up to the factory harness dont use t taps invest in some inline strippers made by kronus you can find them at radio shack for 30 bucks and a pick set 10 dollars it will pay in the end if you ever have to do any electricle work on your car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! inline splice the grey wire then use straight pick make a hole then insert the red wire wrap around and e tape easy as that...............

 

also for the tc you can take your center counsil out... thiers a cig lighter in the counsil with a acc 12 volts switched. you can tap into thier just use a muti meter and find out witch one is + and - from thier u can lift up the carpet that at the bottom of the center counsil and drill a hole big enough for the the charger head (for the phone) drill right in the corner so when you lay the carpet back down its nice and flat stock looking... then u have have a charger with no cig lighters taken up.