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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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im looking for a good budget 10 inch sub for my alpine amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-9Sx9ugN...rch=alpine+301 can anyone recommend me a good budget sub. right now im looking into the Alpine type S DVC or Elemental designs 11kv.2. Any help is welcome!
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im looking for a good budget 10 inch sub for my alpine amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-9Sx9ugN...rch=alpine+301 can anyone recommend me a good budget sub. right now im looking into the Alpine type S DVC or Elemental designs 11kv.2. Any help is welcome!
If you have that amp, go with either a single voice coil 2 ohm sub or dual 4 ohm sub so you will get max power from the amp at 2 ohm mono. I would recommend the Diamond Audio D3 10" dual 4 ohm sub, if you have an enclosure with the correct air space (around .75 ft^3). Great sub for the money, will handle the power of that amp perfectly and overall good SQ/SPL sub. However, there are others out there as well! PM me if your interested in buying one. We also sell prefab and xB enclosures that work well with em.

Keep Jammin,
Old Apr 24, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Go crazy and get the Alpine TypeX ... I got one and its SIC! Pics are in my Car Domain page!
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Either Elemental Designs or Alpine would be good choices... and JL audio 10w3 wouldnt be bad either... but do like audioformz said with the 2 ohm.
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the 11kv2 is really nice. I have one.
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http://www.woofersetc.com/product.as...2&1=366&3=3025

this would work well......
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jet a 12" rockford p1. I have one and it sounds perfect, not too much bass but it still hits decently.
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jet a 12" rockford p1. I have one and it sounds perfect, not too much bass but it still hits decently.
He is looking for a 10" sub ...
Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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im looking for a good budget 10 inch sub for my alpine amp http://www.crutchfield.com/S-9Sx9ugN...rch=alpine+301 can anyone recommend me a good budget sub. right now im looking into the Alpine type S DVC or Elemental designs 11kv.2. Any help is welcome!
If you have that amp, go with either a single voice coil 2 ohm sub or dual 4 ohm sub so you will get max power from the amp at 2 ohm mono. I would recommend the Diamond Audio D3 10" dual 4 ohm sub, if you have an enclosure with the correct air space (around .75 ft^3). Great sub for the money, will handle the power of that amp perfectly and overall good SQ/SPL sub. However, there are others out there as well! PM me if your interested in buying one. We also sell prefab and xB enclosures that work well with em.

Keep Jammin,
I got this one from Ronnie and it works very well. I think the original question was which BUDGET sub? Sure there are some sweet ones out there but put price tags on them when you suggest them. I think the Diamond was around $100?
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For $160 you can get a SoundSplinter RL-i 10". Go read up on these..for the money, you wont find much better imho.

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ok now im deciding between the elemental designs 11kv.2 or a JL 10w0. does anyone have experience with these? which is better in a sealed box?
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no no no get a rockford fosgate punch p3 10" dual 4ohm voice coil sub. it will handle 400watts rms and 800 max and the thing pounds, i got 2 at best buy for around 170$ a piece i believe. it will blow those other 2 choices away. trust me.
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Go with the Soundsplinter rl-i 10" The JL isn't in the same class. Although it's a JL, it is a true budget sub. If you insist on going a little more mainstream, get the ED, there stuff is nice.
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Makaveli, I had an alpine amp similar to that pushing 2 JL 10" w0. Like you, I was on a budget and to be honest, it sounded pretty good. That is until someone broke into my xB at work and stole the amp, the sealed box with the 2 w0, my CDs, and (can you believe it) the Scion owners manual! ( I guess they liked the leather-looking case.) Anyways, I think you would like that setup too. Now, I've gone up to 12" Alpine w3 and am pretty happy with this too. Check out cardomain as well as crutchfield too if you're into mail order, or go to a reputable audio shop which would provide the assistance you may need. Good luck and keep us informed on how it goes.
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For budget performance, I'd want to recommend an Adire Audio Shiva, but it only comes in a 12", so I'll have to go back to the drawing board on this one.

JL's W0 sub, while a decent entry level sub, just doesn't cut it in it's price range. The W1 is also a decent sub, much better than the W0 in fact, and would be a better suggestion generally speaking.

Still though, I prefer to delve a little deeper. While I like eD's stuff, and because they're a sponsor here, I will only say that their entry level target falls a little flat for the price point.

For 175 watts, nominal, and on a budget, I like to recommend a few things. The first being to determine what type of music you listen to most frequently, genre or general style. The next being to determine your max and minimum amount you'd spend. The next being how much floor space/trunk space you are willing to sacrifice. And the last being what you want to focus on SQ, or SPL. Once you've answered those questions it'll be a whole lot easier to recommend a driver more specific to your tastes. I can sit here and throw suggestion after suggesion at you based on what I have in my car, or what I've heard, or read about something, but that'd be both ignorant and unprofessional. Fact of the matter is that to ensure a satisfied consumer, you have to take into account the consumer, and not just throw out a general recommendation.
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nice response riccochetrabbit, actually im looking for a dual voice coil (4+4ohm) sub so i can get the most out of my amp (350w @ 2ohm). i listen to mostly rap but i like tight bass that i can feel so i leaning towards a sealed enclosure. the most i would spend on the sub itself is $150 but i really want to buy a sub and box combo so i dont have to worry about buying a matching box. i like SQ over SPL by the way. i still need some recommendations so feel free to comment based on these answers.
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Originally Posted by riccochetrabbit
While I like eD's stuff, and because they're a sponsor here, I will only say that their entry level target falls a little flat for the price point.
Always interested in what people think...but what exactly doesn't the K-series sub do that another $115 sub will? Where is it lacking, what would you prefer it to be able to do?

Just wondering Plus...no point in limiting your feelings to someone because a certain company sponsers a forum...I'm not gonna get all mad because you state your opinion about our product :D
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Originally Posted by mandos
Originally Posted by riccochetrabbit
While I like eD's stuff, and because they're a sponsor here, I will only say that their entry level target falls a little flat for the price point.
Always interested in what people think...but what exactly doesn't the K-series sub do that another $115 sub will? Where is it lacking, what would you prefer it to be able to do?

Just wondering Plus...no point in limiting your feelings to someone because a certain company sponsers a forum...I'm not gonna get all mad because you state your opinion about our product :D
The eDK is just lacking a tad in it's LFE. It also doesn't do it for me as far as clarity goes, especially at high volumes, and some of the lower volumes. Granted, it's a really well built sub, but being an SQ guy myself, I really like clarity, this one falls a little bit short in that department. Overall, for the price point, I'd give it a 7.5 of 10. I don't have any at this class rated a 10 of 10 though.

Now, for the original thread starter, I'll give you a few sugggestions that, IMO, would suit your needs well.

First, unless you're not very mechanically inclined (sorry couldn't come up with a better term), I'd have to recommend building a box (or having one built) to spec/ts parameters of your sub. True, a pre-fab box will sound just fine, and will be ample in lots of applications, but to get the full capability out of the driver it'd be best to have or DIY a box to the specifications of the driver. That said:

1. Arc Audio KAR10D. This sub plays fairly clearat high playback volumes, for an entry level of course. It also has good tonal response. I especially like it's ability to transition from rock to r&b without falling flat in either. Price point for this one is between $100-$120 (depending on where you shop).

2. JL Audio 10W1v2. Performs remarkably well at a low price point. Clarity is great at a high playback level with this one, for being an entry level woofer. This one transitions well from rock to rap and back again well also. The downside to this product is that buying online voids the warranty, as JL doesn't authorize online sales. I personally like havig a warranty, even if I've never had a problem from their product. Price point $100-$120 (again, dependant on where you shop). JL also offers pre-fab boxes so you wouldn't have to have one built or buy a generic one. Great upside for you.

3. Image Dynamics ID10v3. This sub plays well at both high and low playback volumes. It performs along the lines of the eD product, except it's just a small bit clearer. It also can function well in evry small enclosures(especially good if you're concerned with saving space) Other than that, it's performs just like the eD. Expect to pay around $110 for one (that's the price at www.cardomain.com/shop the only authorized online dealer I know of).

4. Image Dynamics IDQ10v2. Great excursion out of this one (13.5mm average one way). Thermally, it handles it's power really well. Also does this mechanically. Functions remarkably well at high play back volumes, at least for the price point. Transitions well from rock to rap. This one's a little above your price point, but if you ebay'd you could find one for under it. Expect to pay around $160 retail for it.

5. Adire Audio Shiva 12. Yeah, I know you said you'd want a 10, but this one performs so well at a low price point I felt compelled to include it. This one functions remarkably well at low power (watch the video on their ste of it pumping with a whopping 60 watts). Granted it can take more, much more, than that, but it functions well at low power input. This one plays all types of music well, possibly the best at the price point. It also allows you to get a tad lower on the frequency chart than the average entry level 10. Coupled with a JBL power seres amp (cheap yet efficent power, and remember, we're going budget here) this one does anything you could ask out of a budget woofer exceptionally well. Problem here is actually being able to find one to buy. MSRP $125

6. Resonant Engineering SE10. Has a great bottom octave, especially at higher playback volume. Is thermally efficent. Plays remarkably well in all applications. Plays well with all genres of music. Expect to pay between $125-$150 depending on where you shop. (Their RE10 is pretty decent at a lower price point. It's a tad less clear at high playback, and sometimes doesn't transition as well, but still pretty good)

The eD sub was a good recomendation as well, and it's been covered as well. These are just some alternative suggestions.


Also, to the recommendation before mine... you find a W7 for under $150 it's either a) damaged, b) hot(ie stolen), or c)an idiot selling it.
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Originally Posted by riccochetrabbit
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While I like eD's stuff, and because they're a sponsor here, I will only say that their entry level target falls a little flat for the price point.
Always interested in what people think...but what exactly doesn't the K-series sub do that another $115 sub will? Where is it lacking, what would you prefer it to be able to do?

Just wondering Plus...no point in limiting your feelings to someone because a certain company sponsers a forum...I'm not gonna get all mad because you state your opinion about our product :D
The eDK is just lacking a tad in it's LFE. It also doesn't do it for me as far as clarity goes, especially at high volumes, and some of the lower volumes. Granted, it's a really well built sub, but being an SQ guy myself, I really like clarity, this one falls a little bit short in that department. Overall, for the price point, I'd give it a 7.5 of 10. I don't have any at this class rated a 10 of 10 though.

Now, for the original thread starter, I'll give you a few sugggestions that, IMO, would suit your needs well.

First, unless you're not very mechanically inclined (sorry couldn't come up with a better term), I'd have to recommend building a box (or having one built) to spec/ts parameters of your sub. True, a pre-fab box will sound just fine, and will be ample in lots of applications, but to get the full capability out of the driver it'd be best to have or DIY a box to the specifications of the driver. That said:

1. Arc Audio KAR10D. This sub plays fairly clearat high playback volumes, for an entry level of course. It also has good tonal response. I especially like it's ability to transition from rock to r&b without falling flat in either. Price point for this one is between $100-$120 (depending on where you shop).

2. JL Audio 10W1v2. Performs remarkably well at a low price point. Clarity is great at a high playback level with this one, for being an entry level woofer. This one transitions well from rock to rap and back again well also. The downside to this product is that buying online voids the warranty, as JL doesn't authorize online sales. I personally like havig a warranty, even if I've never had a problem from their product. Price point $100-$120 (again, dependant on where you shop). JL also offers pre-fab boxes so you wouldn't have to have one built or buy a generic one. Great upside for you.

3. Image Dynamics ID10v3. This sub plays well at both high and low playback volumes. It performs along the lines of the eD product, except it's just a small bit clearer. It also can function well in evry small enclosures(especially good if you're concerned with saving space) Other than that, it's performs just like the eD. Expect to pay around $110 for one (that's the price at www.cardomain.com/shop the only authorized online dealer I know of).

4. Image Dynamics IDQ10v2. Great excursion out of this one (13.5mm average one way). Thermally, it handles it's power really well. Also does this mechanically. Functions remarkably well at high play back volumes, at least for the price point. Transitions well from rock to rap. This one's a little above your price point, but if you ebay'd you could find one for under it. Expect to pay around $160 retail for it.

5. Adire Audio Shiva 12. Yeah, I know you said you'd want a 10, but this one performs so well at a low price point I felt compelled to include it. This one functions remarkably well at low power (watch the video on their ste of it pumping with a whopping 60 watts). Granted it can take more, much more, than that, but it functions well at low power input. This one plays all types of music well, possibly the best at the price point. It also allows you to get a tad lower on the frequency chart than the average entry level 10. Coupled with a JBL power seres amp (cheap yet efficent power, and remember, we're going budget here) this one does anything you could ask out of a budget woofer exceptionally well. Problem here is actually being able to find one to buy. MSRP $125

6. Resonant Engineering SE10. Has a great bottom octave, especially at higher playback volume. Is thermally efficent. Plays remarkably well in all applications. Plays well with all genres of music. Expect to pay between $125-$150 depending on where you shop. (Their RE10 is pretty decent at a lower price point. It's a tad less clear at high playback, and sometimes doesn't transition as well, but still pretty good)

The eD sub was a good recomendation as well, and it's been covered as well. These are just some alternative suggestions.


Also, to the recommendation before mine... you find a W7 for under $150 it's either a) damaged, b) hot(ie stolen), or c)an idiot selling it.
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treo ssi dual 4 ohms wired to 2 ohms. it will be able to handle way more than the 350watts that amp will give it but it''ll still get pretty loud.



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