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Old May 22, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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I was putting cathods in my car last night, everything went well untill the last second when i was trying to connect the switch, i passed a live wire through a hole to get it out from where i wanted it, and then i touch somewhere on or by the interior fuse box.
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the car wont ignite, its not a batt. prob. i know...
the windows wont close, the sunroof wont close and the radio wont turn on.


PLEASE help me.

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Old May 22, 2009 | 05:54 PM
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what wire did you tap into? find the fuse for that wire and replace it, you most likely blew it.
Old May 22, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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what wire did you tap into? find the fuse for that wire and replace it, you most likely blew it.
i tapped into the "CIG" fuse, this isnt my first time doing the lights, but my first time screwing up like this.
i literally checked all the fuses, they all LOOK fine. i dont have a volt meter to check. usually if its blown you can see in the fuse that its blown.
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did you hit the fuse box facing down or the wire harness that faces the driver when you take off the plastic cover, its right above the fuse box i believe.

might want to unplug the battery and drain the system of power and hook it up again. might reset what ever you tripped.
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is it only some systems that work or nothing works on the car?
Old May 22, 2009 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SATownScion
is it only some systems that work or nothing works on the car?
oh no everything works: headlights, taillights, interior lights, door locks, horn, gauges, everything but the radio, windows, sunroof, and ignition.

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Originally Posted by SATownScion
did you hit the fuse box facing down or the wire harness that faces the driver when you take off the plastic cover, its right above the fuse box i believe.

might want to unplug the battery and drain the system of power and hook it up again. might reset what ever you tripped.
oh and i hit the fuse box on the drivers side. in the interior, not the one in the engine bay.
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yea im at work and its friday so i have plenty of time.

yea there is also a wire harness, you see it when you pull the dash cover that is by your left knee when you sit down.

and without a volt meter, it makes it a bit harder to find out the problem. go ahead and disconnect the battery and if that does not work, pull a 'working' fuse from a system that is working and try it out on one that is not. i carry a box of extra fuses for situations like this.
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did you remove the negative terminal from the battery?
Old May 22, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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did you remove the negative terminal from the battery?
uhhh i dont think so?... why?
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to reset the ecu. did you also look at the fuses in the engine compartment?
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Originally Posted by SATownScion
to reset the ecu. did you also look at the fuses in the engine compartment?
no i believe i only took off the positive terminal, but ill do it again. how long should i take it off for until i connect it back?

and yeah i tried playing around with the fuses in the engine bay. Im not sure which ones are the ones im look for. STR meaning starter? im guessing? so im not sure.

Thank you both in advance.
I appreciate it.
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Originally Posted by SATownScion
yea im at work and its friday so i have plenty of time.

yea there is also a wire harness, you see it when you pull the dash cover that is by your left knee when you sit down.

and without a volt meter, it makes it a bit harder to find out the problem. go ahead and disconnect the battery and if that does not work, pull a 'working' fuse from a system that is working and try it out on one that is not. i carry a box of extra fuses for situations like this.
yeah i opened that box up too. its directly where my knee is when i sit. i opened it, but im not sure what to look for?
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i would say 5 to 10 min is more than enough. you can also hit switches while the battery is off to make sure its drained.

dont think thats where it may have touched, some where behind that panel? i think that the fuses for the things you say dont work are all in the same place in the inside fuse cluster.
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kinda sounds like something with the ignition fuse since the stuff that is not working only works when the ignition is hot
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oh ok so i just disconnected the negative terminal and ill wait 10 mins. and then jump it with another car?
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you wont need to jump. its a good battery. recheck anything that had 'ign'
Old May 22, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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SOLVED::

stupid fuse called AM1 or something like that was blown... idk how i could have missed it. it was a 25a fuse. anyways i replaced that with a 30a spare fuse that came with it and BAM the cars alive.
I guess AM1 was the least suspicious to me, i wouldnt have even though about that onw. I was only looking for IGN or anything that could be related to the ignition that would cause such a problem, but AM1!!!! lol

THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT!
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Multiple things done wrong in this thread, but two that stand out:

1) Don't ever disconnect just the positive cable from the battery, always do the negative first. Once the negative is disconnected, there is no need to disconnect the positive, unless the battery is being removed.
Reason - if you happen to touch the chassis or any ground point with your wrench while disconnecting the positive first, the wrench will weld to the ground point, and you'll get a 300 amp zap on your hand. Don't believe me? Try it - make sure to post pics.

2) Never replace a fuse with a higher amp fuse - the fuse is 25 for a reason. Putting a higher amp fuse in the circuit (like the 30 you used), won't blow at the same level as the 25, and you could potentially damage everything on that circuit as a result.

And FYI, there is no current stored in the circuit to 'drain' once the negative is disconnected from the battery. The circuit is 'dead' as soon as the negative is disconnected.
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