Notices
Scion tC 1G ICE & Interior In-car entertainment and electronics...

Need tech help for install.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:42 PM
  #1  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default Need tech help for install.

I got a new eclipse avn 5510 HU installed and I have a few questions. First I know there is a saftey feature that doesn't allow you to watch dvds while you drive, I also know that there is some way so overide that feature. My question is can anyone tell me how to do that in detail and is it difficult? My seccond question is is it difficult to install an adapter to utilize the steering wheel controls and can anyone give me detailed instructions on how to do that? Thanks guys.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 04:16 PM
  #2  
Amoxaphobic's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,092
From: Siloam Springs, AR
Default

I am not familiar with that HU, so I am not sure if it has GPS or not. If it does, then it's a bit harder to bypass the safety function, but still possible. If it does not have GPS, then a bypass is very easy.

The safety works by detecting when your parking brake is on (or the handle is lifted). This is really just a grounding method. So you would simply take the wire that connects to your parking brake and ground it. If the unit has GPS, then it can still tell that you are moving and notice a "faulty" parking brake. So you would have to ground that too, making a GPS a bit harder to work around.
You can ground the wire to any solid metal point of the chassis, or just use the same ground that your HU is using.

As for the steering wheel controls. There are several different adaptors, and for help on how to install one, you would have to give specifics on what adaptor you are, or will be using. I would suggest going to google or crutchfield and search for an adaptor that would work with your HU.
All adaptors should come with instructions on how to install them, but we all know how some of those instructions are.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:02 AM
  #3  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

ok I understand the parking brake ground part. I have gps so how exactly do I do that what do I ground. Can you give any detailed instructions?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 04:35 AM
  #4  
gizmokat's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 176
Default

I don't know if the Eclipses are as advanced as the AVICs w/ their security.
All you might have to do is probably ground the parking brake wire. Also I think most of the Eclipse units might be plug and play so the steering wheel controls can work straight out of the box.

If you actually need a wiring harness for install then it might be different.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:22 AM
  #5  
SquallLHeart's Avatar
Senior Member

10 Year Member

5 Year Member

SoCal tC Club
SL Member
Team N.V.S.
Scinergy
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,699
Default

uhhh.. the avn should take the radio control harness fine...

plug it in?

and as far as the bypass... ground the parking brake wire... i assume you didn't install it.. did you?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:59 AM
  #6  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

No I did not install because where I bought it I got free install. I was told by a tech at eclipse the avn models dont utilize the steering wheel controls out of the box that you need a adapter for those models. Is there an apparant wire going to the e brake like if i pull the armrest off will I see it? And if so just re route it to a permanent ground on the car?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:01 AM
  #7  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

And can anyone tell me how hard it is to intall the adapter? Is it very easy? anyone done this?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:04 AM
  #8  
SquallLHeart's Avatar
Senior Member

10 Year Member

5 Year Member

SoCal tC Club
SL Member
Team N.V.S.
Scinergy
Scion Evolution
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 15,699
Default

... are you sure now?

how about you take apart the car yourself.. perhaps take a few pics of the back of the headunit...

if that eclipse tech wasn't the one who installed it... then there's a chance he doesn't know anything... along with the person who installed it and forgot to plug in one extra plug.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:10 PM
  #9  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

ok ill take it apart and take a pic.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 01:42 PM
  #10  
Amoxaphobic's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,092
From: Siloam Springs, AR
Default

Yeah, I have the AVIC and it can be a bugger to bypass. The eclipse may be way easier. To ground the parking brake wire, just take the wire that connects to the parking brake and connect it to the same ground as the stereo or a solid metal point (such as the chassis). If you take the console apart and look at the parking brake, you can trace the wire to the stereo to find out which one it is.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 03:27 PM
  #11  
gizmokat's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 176
Default

uhmm... maybe you should TRY the steering wheel controls to see if they work if it's already installed? hahaha.

and read the install manual that came with the head unit to find out what color the parking brake wire is....
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:31 PM
  #12  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

ok I am not an idiot. I obviosly already tried the steering wheel controls they dont work. I talked to a tech at eclipse he told me of course it doesnt work on this model I need an adapter. I bought this unit thinking it was gonna work with the radio controls right out of the box, now I am getting upset because it is becoming nothing but a hassle. I was told on here that all double din eclipse work right out of the box.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:30 PM
  #13  
Amoxaphobic's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Team ScionEyed
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,092
From: Siloam Springs, AR
Default

Hey now... no need to get fiesty. We are only trying to help.

I understand your frustration, but sometimes crap happens. Just get the adaptor. It's not expensive, and if you don't have the money now, then it's not hard to live without the the steering wheel controls until you can afford one.

Did you at least get the bypass to work?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:58 PM
  #14  
gizmokat's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 176
Default

my mistake but it's easier to answer your questions if you preface it with what you've already researched/tried.

check this post on the avn5500, they should be relatively similar, I can't imagine too much has changed between models.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...hlight=avn5500

Hopefully they gave you all the parts they didn't use in the installation, there might be an extra harness for the steering wheel controls. If the wires behind the HU aren't a straight plug into the unit, then in that case you'll probably need the pac swi-ps adapter. It seems like some units are plug and play and others are not?

I would try to check the AVN's installation manual to see if there's a section about steering wheel controls.

good luck
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:06 PM
  #15  
trialsindude's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Strictly Scionized
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,284
From: White Marsh, Balti Co., MD
Default

I installed a AVN5500 not to long ago, just ground the parking wire and you are set...
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:08 PM
  #16  
LeroyJMC's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 609
From: North GA
Default

Obviously the tech that you spoke with was clueless just like the one who I spoke to was clueless as to what multicasting was in reference to HD radio. AVN models are compatible with steering wheel controls. Plug and play.

Same with bypassing the safety feature. There is no special deal going on with the nav vs non-nav units. Just ground the p-brake wire.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:18 PM
  #17  
jesterscourt's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 196
From: ny
Default

Well Im telling you its not plug and play and Im not getting mad at you guys just at the situation im in. I just want everything to work. Im gonna ground it today but one more quesion do i disconnect the parking brake wire from the e barke and ground that end as I assume or the other way.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:32 PM
  #18  
LeroyJMC's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 609
From: North GA
Default

It is plug and play for the steering wheel controls.

Take a look at the installation "for browsing" link for the 5510 here:
http://www.eclipse-web.com/download/manual/index2.html

Look on page 6 and page 12. On page 6 the steering wheel control plug is labeled "G". On page 12 it is the 20P connector labeled "TO STEERING REMOTE CONTROL". That is the plug that you plug into your factory wiring harness which allows you to use your steering wheel controls.




You are correct in your assumption on grounding the p-brake wire. It should be a red/white wire. Just attach that to pretty much any screw in the metal of the vehicle.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:01 PM
  #19  
LeroyJMC's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 609
From: North GA
Default

Take a look at the pic below that I found in this post: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=150032. Look at the white plug that's on the top far left. It doesn't have all of the pins full. It only has maybe six or so wires connected. A purple, a pink.....see it? That's the 20P connector in the factory harness that you need to plug into the 20P connector from your Eclipse unit's harness that I told you about in my previous post.

Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:02 PM
  #20  
gizmokat's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 176
Default



hope that helps

Originally Posted by LeroyJMC
It is plug and play for the steering wheel controls.

Take a look at the installation "for browsing" link for the 5510 here:
http://www.eclipse-web.com/download/manual/index2.html

Look on page 6 and page 12. On page 6 the steering wheel control plug is labeled "G". On page 12 it is the 20P connector labeled "TO STEERING REMOTE CONTROL". That is the plug that you plug into your factory wiring harness which allows you to use your steering wheel controls.




You are correct in your assumption on grounding the p-brake wire. It should be a red/white wire. Just attach that to pretty much any screw in the metal of the vehicle.



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:14 AM.